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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
    So part of the Java lives on as part of the Constitution?
    No, as I said it was replaced in 1813 and disappeared. Odd as trophies were often retained. I expect Java's ensign is somewhere - anyone know more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    I expect Java's ensign is somewhere - anyone know more?
    Not sure where it is but here is a photo of it:

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    http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypld...0&pNum=&pos=13

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    No, as I said it was replaced in 1813 and disappeared. Odd as trophies were often retained. I expect Java's ensign is somewhere - anyone know more?
    While Bobby found a photo of the ensign. I found via the USS Consititution Museum website that someone took a Bible off the HMS Java.

    http://www.ussconstitutionmuseum.org...r/prod/496/25/

    And from Bainbridge's journal, "a muster book, Watch List and quarter Bills" were also removed.

    http://www.history.navy.mil/docs/war1812/const6.htm

    So, as you said lots of trophies were removed from various ships, some of which may have disappeared into private hands or are buried in physical collections not documented on the Internet.

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