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    I'm not sure. The USS Constitution was exceptionally big for a frigate and the model is on the large side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexaS View Post
    I'm not sure. The USS Constitution was exceptionally big for a frigate and the model is on the large side.
    I haven't looked at stats for Newcastle and Leander, but didn't they have broadsides even larger than the American heavy frigates?

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    Leander. Portland Class 1779 146 ft. Rated 52.

    330 crew.

    Ld 22x 24 pdrs.
    Ud 22x 12 pdrs.
    Qd 6x 6 pdrs.
    Fc 2x 6pdrs.


    Leander 1813. 174 ft. Rated 60.

    450 crew.

    Ud 30x 24 pdrs.
    Spar deck 26x 42 pdr Carronades.
    Fc 4x 24 pdrs.


    Newcastle. 176 ft 5 in. Rated 60.

    450 Crew.

    Ud 30x 24 pdrs.
    Spar deck 24x 42 pdr Carronades.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    Leander. Portland Class 1779 146 ft. Rated 52.

    330 crew.

    Ld 22x 24 pdrs.
    Ud 22x 12 pdrs.
    Qd 6x 6 pdrs.
    Fc 2x 6pdrs.


    Leander 1813. 174 ft. Rated 60.

    450 crew.

    Ud 30x 24 pdrs.
    Spar deck 26x 42 pdr Carronades.
    Fc 4x 24 pdrs.


    Newcastle. 176 ft 5 in. Rated 60.

    450 Crew.

    Ud 30x 24 pdrs.
    Spar deck 24x 42 pdr Carronades.


    Rob.
    I'd call the two 60's and the Endymions about on-par with a Humphreys Superfrigate, which was about as much a "44" in practice as a "Break Up For Rebuild" leaving the dock the same ship it came in as. (I think Humphreys and the Navy deliberately cooked the books to sneak it past "we don't wanna spend money on war anymore" isolationist politicians.)

    Interesting ideas, Dobbs; worthy of a deeper look. :)
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