SW X Wing and FFG discussion

[csadn]

1- The game will be longer than WoG (as I thought) because there is passive (dice based) and active (decision/ability based) defense, whereas, WoG has no defense. It is also because there are more steps to each turn with more midturn book keeping.

Hm -- my experience has been the opposite; with fewer maneuver options and less need to think two jumps ahead, The SO is much faster about determining her movements (she has problems when confronted with large number of Choices -- it's a recurring joke in the house). The only real slowdown in play came when trying to find the bit in the rules about which special-rule takes precedence when two or more conflict (note: Always take characters with "can't" specials; they trump all others).

The main problem I see is: The Imperials will almost-always be taking 2 units for every 1 on the Rebel side, so the number of units increases drastically as the points increase, which leads to need to make a lot of decisions for a lot of units (The SO did not do well as the Imperials; she kept getting units confused, and spent a lot of the games tripping over herself).

As to "reactive play in _WoG_": See my movement rules for _Crimson Skies of Glory_ for my solution to that problem.

[David Manley]

(The SO did not do well as the Imperials; she kept getting units confused, and spent a lot of the games tripping over herself

That is, of course, entirely in keeping with Star Wars canon:

[csadn]

That is, of course, entirely in keeping with Star Wars canon:

We noticed as well. :)

[OmegaLazarus]

Hm -- my experience has been the opposite; with fewer maneuver options and less need to think two jumps ahead, The SO is much faster about determining her movements (she has problems when confronted with large number of Choices -- it's a recurring joke in the house).

I see what you mean about quick planning and I agree. I only meant a slow down due to dice based attack and defense. I know this has been generally covered before, so I am not here to reignite that debate. I just mean that it isn't unheard of to roll poorly or amazingly all night so you could potentially have a small (1 or 2 ship) game where the attacker can't seem to deliver damage whether due to poor attack rolling or amazing defense rolling. I know that won't happen all the time, but when it does happen in can make for an unexpectedly long game. A card damage system tending to always deliver a set amount of total damage per draws when draw count equals the number of cards in the deck.

The only real slowdown in play came when trying to find the bit in the rules about which special-rule takes precedence when two or more conflict (note: Always take characters with "can't" specials; they trump all others).

Thanks for that info. That is something I will keep in mind and pay attention to the next time I get to play and test out the system. Cheers!