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  1. 09-03-2020, 02:46 #1
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    I am still collecting and noticed that 3 of my miniatures are ex Indiamen.
    Has anyone got any stats for them in merchant life please
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    They're downloadable on Ares's website.

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    Thank you kind sir.
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    If you would like any cards making up for them in this role let me know Gary.
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    Ok thanks Rob.
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    My pleasure. Just send me the details you want on the ship cards . The deck you will use and ship names you require, flag they will fly and I can knock you out a set for each ship.
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    Pretty much other than Bonhomme Richard, all the French ships retained their merchant names. You're looking for ships in about the 900-ton weight class, could maybe pass for as big as 1100 or 1200--for French, I suggest looking for late 1750s to early 1760s builds, particularly those designed or built by Antoine Groignard.
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    Cheers DB,

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    Further narrowing, look for ships in the 50- to 64-gun range. Start here, select France as nation and Compagnie des Indes as operator, I used cutoff dates of 1750 to 1769. Not all of these are stretches I would endorse to Ares for official use--in fact most I would NOT since I'm a "Show Me the Blueprints" sort--but all are of similar size, role, configuration, time and design philosophy to the Groignard 900-tonners Bonhomme Richard was rebuilt from. (Our sculpt is ONLY BHR; to turn her back into an EIM you need to chop the first 12 scale feet or so IIRC off the quarterdeck and splice an extension in at the base of the mizzenmast.) Some like Massaic are mislisted as flutes, so check those too.

    1752-70 FCI Saint Louis https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis...w_ship&id=2339
    1753-61 FCI Duc de Bourgogne https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=16341
    1753-70 FCI Conde https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15443
    1754-61 FCI Duc d'Orleans https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis...w_ship&id=2253
    1754 Duc de Penthievre class
    ---1754-56 FCI Duc de Penthievre https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=17039
    ---1755-60 FCI Sechelles https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=16339
    1754-57 FCI Pondichery https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=18417
    1754-62 FCI Penthievre->1762-70 FCI Paix https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15444
    1755-57 FCI Duc d'Aquitane (becomes 1758 HMS Duc d'Aquitaine 64-gun SOL) https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis...w_ship&id=2251
    1756-60 FCI Duc de Berry https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis...w_ship&id=2252
    1756-61 FCI Moras https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=16338
    ?1756-65 FCI Vengeur (a skosh big at 1250t) https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15423
    1757-63 FCI Fortune https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=16342
    1758 Fortune class
    ---1758-70 FCI Comte d'Argenson https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15441
    ---1758 FCI Brillant (sold to Navy 8 months after entering service) https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=16342
    Groignard 900-ton EIM's
    ---1758 FCI Elephant->1761 FCI Purissima Conception->1761-70 FCI Elephant https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15902
    ---1759-70 FCI Massaic (USN calls BHR "Massaic class") https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15439
    ---1760-70 FCI Berryer https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15437
    ---1761-70 FCI Duc de Choiseul https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15451
    ---1762-70 FCI Beaumont https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15448
    ---1762-70 FCI Bertin https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=14915
    ---1762-70 FCI Villevault https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15448
    ---1765-69 FCI Duc de Duras (becomes BHR) https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15434
    ---1766-70 FCI Dauphin https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15453
    1761 FCI Bertin https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15839
    Indien class (a skosh heavy at 1242t)
    ---1768-70 FCI Actionnaire https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15424
    ---1768-71 FCI Indien https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=24942
    ---1769-70 FCI Superbe https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15425
    ---1770 FCI Mars (bought by Navy after a MONTH in service) https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=15426
    ---1774-79 FCI Marechal de Broglie https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=16108
    ---1775-78 FCI Severe https://threedecks.org/index.php?dis..._ship&id=22512
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