What Do You Intend to Buy?

**Coog** · 04-02-2013, 22:56

In collecting WWI Wings of War/Glory models, I started out trying to collect at least one of every model and paint sceme plus some extras for repaints. I'm not that interested in the series 5 models and have only purchased a couple so far and not sure if I'll get them all. However when series 6 comes out I'll probably be getting one of every model and paint sceme again. With WWII I've only got the aircraft that interested me and extras of those for repaints. Sails of Glory now raises the question...Do I really want to get everything? What are your plans for Sails of Glory?

**The Royal Hajj** · 04-02-2013, 23:19

I'll get one of every every ship they put out. Not sure I'll be doing any repaints of these, so those would have to wait for an "as needed bases".

**RichardPF** · 04-02-2013, 23:48

I expect that I will be getting a large number of multiples of every model in every paint scheme available.

At this point I have at least two of every WWI Wings models. One for use and one put away.
I mentioned in a previous post that I sometimes look at the put away set and think that I should have purchased more than one set when I could to put "in the closet".
Backfilling to reailze that today would be amazingly expensive; such is the nature of hindsight.
I still buy these at eBay when groups present themselves at prices that aren't too crazy, but that isn't often.

I am not really interested in the WWII Wings stuff that much, but I think I still have at least one of everything just because.
Almost none of them have been opened.

Luckily, this is the only stuff I do this with otherwise everyone would know me from an appearance on that show where people have too much stuff to live in their houses!

I believe that I have read somewhere about the boxes for the ships being somewhere near the size of the WWI bomber boxes. If so, I may still be in big trouble soon...

**The Royal Hajj** · 04-03-2013, 00:01

Richard, I think it was WWII bomber boxes, so a little better

**Jack Aubrey** · 04-03-2013, 03:34

I am getting one of every model and paint scheme but no extras for repaints. I think that`s ok.

**7eat51** · 04-03-2013, 05:59

At present, I plan on one of each ship in each scheme. If I have the opportunity to run games at local conventions, etc., I will pick up multiple copies of certain ships, but not necessarily for repaints as much as to have a few tables play the same scenario simultaneously, etc. I am not sure about running large-scale engagements until I know how many ships a single person can realistically manage; I don't know if I will have too many groups of 20+ individuals present who will want to play SoG. From what I have seen at local conventions thus far, Warhammer has the best chance of attracting large groups.

**David Manley** · 04-03-2013, 06:16

I am only buying those that interest me.

Of course, at present they all interest me :)

In the future though I suspect my interest will be aimed towards the smeller ship / merchant end of the scale.

**Beowulf03809** · 04-03-2013, 06:21

The last option is probably the most honest answer for me but it should be noted that even that can mean a significant number of ships.

I'm not a collector as much as a gamer. My purchases will be focused on what I need to play the scenarios I enjoy and how my play style develops. This will probably mean I'll get multiples of some ships and even do some repainting but in other cases I may only get a single ship or skip some all together. For Napoleonic I may not get too many Spanish ships, for example, but if SoG expands to Caribbean / Age of Piracy then I'm sure Spanish ships will come more under interest. But I won't just buy new ships for the collection perspective.

**GrouperKicker** · 04-03-2013, 08:06

I guess this is as good a time/location as any to ask this question: From what I have been reading, it seems like Ares stops producing all planes from the previous wave once a new wave is released. Is this true? If so, this may impact my answer.

**Cmmdre** · 04-03-2013, 08:13

I'll probably get two copies of each. One to put away unopened and one for gaming. I thought when I collected Wizkids Pirates that I could say no to series that I didn't like but I ended up getting everything. I'm guessing it will be the same with SoG.

**7eat51** · 04-03-2013, 08:31

Greetings Scott. Welcome to the Anchorage. Head over to the Welcome Aboard forum and start a thread introducing yourself.
http://sailsofglory.org/forumdisplay...Welcome-Aboard

Where in Illinois do you live?

**Horatio** · 04-03-2013, 09:56

I will probably buy the basic set and a couple of extras.
This is probably heresy, but one sailing ship is pretty much the same as another to me so I don't need to many.
Don

**Diamondback** · 04-03-2013, 15:03

Other: Eventually two of everything except Victory, Constitution and other "multi-stat same-name" packs where I'll only do 1 of each. I urged Andrea to try to pair cards by flag and paintjob so as to save trouble of repaint and reflag, for that very reason... but if I MUST repaint the second set for them to match the Side B cards... well, I'll do it but it ain't gonna be pretty and somebody better pass the Prozac. LOL

What would that make me? (Would rather not, but will repaint as needed only to match released cards.)

Originally Posted by GrouperKicker

I guess this is as good a time/location as any to ask this question: From what I have been reading, it seems like Ares stops producing all planes from the previous wave once a new wave is released. Is this true? If so, this may impact my answer.

Scott, the only WoW set that's been reprinted into WGF/S so far saw just over 1/3 carry-over--the added reprint mini was due to fan outrage over one of the originally proposed new prints; it sounds like "keep one, trade two for new" is the baseline game-plan, and IF I'm understanding Andrea right eventually everybody'll get a turn being reprinted. (Though it may take longer for some "dead-stocked" or "low demand" sculpts than others.) It's not continuous production--each set gets popped for a run of X thousand copies of each, then gets set aside for the next one to be produced, to be rotated back for another run later.

**GrouperKicker** · 04-03-2013, 20:35

Eric: I'm from McHenry, IL.
Diamondback: Thanks for the information on the print runs!

**7eat51** · 04-03-2013, 20:49

Scott, there is a group of northern Illinois and southern Wisconsin folks that get together for WoG. With SoG coming online, the same will be true here. Good folks. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll inform you of get-togethers and events. If you have an interest in WoG, check out the Aerodrome if you're not a member already.

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/content.php

**GrouperKicker** · 04-04-2013, 10:23

Eric: Haven't played WOG, but spent some time staring longingly at it at a somewhat local GS. I'd be interested in finding out where/when the folks in N. Ill and S. WI are getting together for SoG. (I MIGHT try to make Adepticon... looks like some folks may be running WoG there.)

**7eat51** · 04-04-2013, 11:03

Originally Posted by GrouperKicker

Eric: Haven't played WOG, but spent some time staring longingly at it at a somewhat local GS. I'd be interested in finding out where/when the folks in N. Ill and S. WI are getting together for SoG. (I MIGHT try to make Adepticon... looks like some folks may be running WoG there.)

Michael, the guy running the WoG event at Adepticon, hosted the last gathering of players at his house in the western burbs in early March. That was my wife's and my first time meeting the group. Wonderful and gracious folks. Did I mention we had plenty of food and beverages as well. There were many other players in the area who couldn't make it that day, so you are situated quite nicely for a gaming community. I know the future will be filled with a lot of great playing time and socializing. When I get back from work, I will check on any upcoming dates and post them here for you.

**Andy Blozinski** · 04-05-2013, 21:23

I need to up my pledge level, but this is probably what I'm going to get so far:

Lt Level
Captain & Crew Ability Deck Option, (1) free, Quantity (1) + (2) = (3) Total
Game Mat Option, Quantity: (2)
Attitude Indicator Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1) +(2) = (3) Total
Combat Ruler Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1) +(1) = (2) Total
Terrain Pack #1 Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1)
Terrain Pack #2 Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1)
HMS Victory + USS Constitution Combo Option, Quantity (1)
Embuscade (Ship Pack), Quantity: (1)
HMS Cleopatra (Ship Pack), Quantity: (1)
Additional Counters Option, Quantity: (1)

I'll likely up the mats to (3) and if smoke markers come out, I'm getting a bunch of those if they look good. I might get a few more combat rulers too. I'm undecided on getting the extra frigates. I need some playtest feedback on the forum to determine that for purposes of time load on an individual player.

**Coog** · 04-06-2013, 06:39

Originally Posted by Andy Blozinski

I need to up my pledge level, but this is probably what I'm going to get so far:

Lt Level
Captain & Crew Ability Deck Option, (1) free, Quantity (1) + (2) = (3) Total
Game Mat Option, Quantity: (2)
Attitude Indicator Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1) +(2) = (3) Total
Combat Ruler Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1) +(1) = (2) Total
Terrain Pack #1 Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1)
Terrain Pack #2 Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1)
HMS Victory + USS Constitution Combo Option, Quantity (1)
Embuscade (Ship Pack), Quantity: (1)
HMS Cleopatra (Ship Pack), Quantity: (1)
Additional Counters Option, Quantity: (1)

I'll likely up the mats to (3) and if smoke markers come out, I'm getting a bunch of those if they look good. I might get a few more combat rulers too. I'm undecided on getting the extra frigates. I need some playtest feedback on the forum to determine that for purposes of time load on an individual player.

Looks like you will have plenty of stuff for a large game, perhaps at Millenniumcon?

**Andy Blozinski** · 04-06-2013, 09:37

Yes. I plan on running it at MillenniumCon. Always at OwlCon. I keep forgetting the name of the San Antonio convention, but I'll probably run it there too. If the wife and kiddo want to visit relatives, I'll run it at the D/FW con too.
I'm not sure what constitutes a large game yet. I'm wondering if I'll need to have players running double ships to keep them busy enough. With the current old school rules I use, one ship is all they should have and that was the intention. If Sails of Glory is easy enough and if there is enough physical space for the logs, I'm thinking it would be cool to have everyone running two ships each. Sometimes I'll run the Formula D race car game and it's a lot more fun when you have two cars. Same with Check Your 6! air combat. If you have two, then if something bad happens to one of them, you're still in the game and having fun.

**7eat51** · 04-06-2013, 10:15

Originally Posted by Andy Blozinski

If Sails of Glory is easy enough and if there is enough physical space for the logs, I'm thinking it would be cool to have everyone running two ships each.

If it plays similarly to WoG, that should be no problem. Given that the game is new, smaller actions might be a good approach the first few times running an event.

**Coog** · 04-06-2013, 13:14

Originally Posted by Andy Blozinski

Yes. I plan on running it at MillenniumCon. Always at OwlCon. I keep forgetting the name of the San Antonio convention, but I'll probably run it there too. If the wife and kiddo want to visit relatives, I'll run it at the D/FW con too.
I'm not sure what constitutes a large game yet. I'm wondering if I'll need to have players running double ships to keep them busy enough. With the current old school rules I use, one ship is all they should have and that was the intention. If Sails of Glory is easy enough and if there is enough physical space for the logs, I'm thinking it would be cool to have everyone running two ships each. Sometimes I'll run the Formula D race car game and it's a lot more fun when you have two cars. Same with Check Your 6! air combat. If you have two, then if something bad happens to one of them, you're still in the game and having fun.

I usually make Milleniumcon every year. Since everything is held at the hotel, my wife loves it as she can take the car and run around Austin. I look forward to playing in your game. I should have been able to run several games by then at the Dallas Games Marathon and will be able to help out with new players if you would like.

**Andy Blozinski** · 04-06-2013, 15:12

When I run Formula D, I run it as two races in a single convention time slot. First race is a single lap street race for an introduction. Second race is on the Formula 1 track and how many laps depends on how much time and players we have.
With only vague knowledge on hand, I'm thinking I might be able to do something similar with Sails of Glory. First battle is single ship per player basic face-off fight. Second game is two ships per player and maybe do a convoy intercept/escort setting. If someone really doesn't want to play two ships, I have several options. An easy one is to hand that person the Victory. If there is an odd number of players, I could hand someone the Constitution and call it a pirate who has no friends just to screw with the situation. These thoughts fell apart when I remembered the Victory and Constitution won't be out until January...darnit. That's the primary reason I'm looking into getting a few extra ships right now. With the eight I get at Lieutenant level, that's only 4 people running double ships. Cons prefer you can handle at least 6 in a slot.

**Ayeblackbart** · 04-12-2013, 17:55

I"m a gamer with a serious collection addiction. I will get one of every ship.

**Cmmdre** · 04-12-2013, 18:35

Me too. I share your joy, I know your pain. Addiction is a serous matter. I can't say no to little ships of the age of sail.

**[Blue Jacket] R.I.P.** · 04-13-2013, 14:24

I always follow the Pokemon approach, gotta catch 'em all!

**Andy Blozinski** · 04-13-2013, 22:27

Here's my latest list:
Captain & Crew Ability Deck Option, (1) free, Quantity (1) + (2) = (3) Total
Game Mat Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1) + (2) = (3) total
Attitude Indicator Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1) +(2) = (3) Total
Combat Ruler Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1) +(3) = (4) Total
Smoke Clouds Option, (2) pair free, Quantity: (2) +(1) = (3) pair Total
Terrain Pack #1 Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1)
Terrain Pack #2 Option, (1) free, Quantity: (1)
HMS Victory + USS Constitution Combo Option, Quantity (1)
Embuscade (Ship Pack), Quantity: (1)
HMS Cleopatra (Ship Pack), Quantity: (1)
Additional Counters Option, Quantity: (1)

**pward** · 04-14-2013, 13:47

My plans are to get one of everything, as I will approach this game as a collection as well as a game.

**David Manley** · 04-14-2013, 13:51

Looks like I'll be getting two extra mats since I've just realised I can't spend my extra $40 for being a Worldwide Captain on the Vic and Connie :(

**Old Salt** · 04-14-2013, 20:22

Not sure what I will buy . It's a wait and see who would be intersted in my area. If it's like WOG won't need much. I now supply 90% of planes and whatever to make WoG happen so will not do the same for SoG

**7eat51** · 04-14-2013, 20:28

Commodore with all the freebies
USS Constitution
HMS Victory
2 additional mats
Maybe an additional deck or 2

This should give me plenty to start hosting games at LFGS and local cons

**Diamondback** · 04-16-2013, 13:12

For at the moment $723...

Item	In Pledge	Add-on	Total
Starter	2	0	2
Set of 4 Kickstarter Exclusives	2	0	2
Set of 8 Singles Packs	2	0	2
HMS Victory	0	1	1
USS Constitution	0	1	1
Game Mat	2	2	4
Attitude Indicator	2	0	2
Combat Ruler	2	0	2
Capt/Crew Deck	4	7	11
Terrain Pack 1	4	0	4
Terrain Pack 2	4	0	4
Smoke Packs	4	0	4
A, B & E Bags	2	3	5
C & D Bags	0	5	5
Extra Counter Set	2	1	3

Given that I only expect to need NINE Crew decks, now I need to figure out what to reallocate the $10 for 2 of 'em to... and I may need to figure out something similar for the $16 for two sets of C&D bags if we can get another $3400 raised in the next 107 minutes.

**The Royal Hajj** · 04-16-2013, 14:52

With the size games you are looking to run, I'd say another AI and CR.

**Diamondback** · 04-16-2013, 15:08

Game? Game? Who said anything about a game? LOL My extra chits and bags are stockpiling things I may not be able to get later for Waves 2 and 3... :) AI's, CR's and smoke I know will be available later, and I'll mop up the crew decks for Wave 2 at BoardGameGeek.

Ended up adding another six bucks to make a total of six bag sets and four extra counter sets.

**Gunner** · 09-02-2013, 00:57

One of each to keep. One of each to wargame with and one (at least) of each for repaints, after I throw out a bed in an extra room to make room for this stuff.

**Naharaht** · 09-03-2013, 20:20

My problem is going to be storing all these plane and ship models in my house.

**Capn Duff** · 10-20-2013, 06:33

My intention is to get enough ships of the "main" combatants of the area
I am interested in, 7yw, Revolutionary & Napoleonic wars.
So looking at around. Half doz SOL for British, French & Spanish navies

**Capn Duff** · 10-20-2013, 06:33

My intention is to get enough ships of the "main" combatants of the area
I am interested in, 7yw, Revolutionary & Napoleonic wars.
So looking at around. Half doz SOL for British, French & Spanish navies

**Diamondback** · 10-20-2013, 18:23

Let me make this easy: Two of EVERYTHING, as long as they're doing double-sided cards.

**RichardPF** · 10-21-2013, 00:54

Originally Posted by Naharaht

My problem is going to be storing all these plane and ship models in my house.

We solved that problem by buying a new house with a formal gaming (er, dining) room.

**Comte de Brueys** · 10-22-2013, 17:54

Huge orders comrades...

I ordered a starter set in Germany and an additional French SoL and a French frigate.

Future orders will be HMS Victory (and I hope for a French 1st rate).

**Gunner** · 10-22-2013, 19:20

Originally Posted by Comte de Brueys

Huge orders comrades...

I ordered a starter set in Germany and an additional French SoL and a French frigate.

Future orders will be HMS Victory (and I hope for a French 1st rate).

Smart move, ordering two French 74's and frigates and one British 74 and frigate.
Evens the odds.

**7eat51** · 10-22-2013, 20:10

Originally Posted by Gunner

Smart move, ordering two French 74's and frigates and one British 74 and frigate.
Evens the odds.

Ed, why is it that whenever I log on, you usually have a post that makes me laugh.

**Coog** · 10-22-2013, 20:15

But what will happen when the American 44 is introduced? We will need additional British ships as they will only engage it with a squadron!

**7eat51** · 10-22-2013, 20:21

Originally Posted by Coog

But what will happen when the American 44 is introduced? We will need additional British ships as they will only engage it with a squadron!

I really hope the Constitution will be on schedule. I am looking forward to playing some 1812 scenarios.

**David Manley** · 10-22-2013, 21:41

Originally Posted by Coog

But what will happen when the American 44 is introduced? We will need additional British ships as they will only engage it with a squadron!

Or an Endymion

I hear the flip side ship is going to be HMS President
《ducks!》

**David Manley** · 10-22-2013, 21:45

PS some thoughts coming on possible better representation of actions such as frigates and big 44s and SOLs (which I think our US chums will like) coming when I get a PC to work on and not just a phone

**Gunner** · 10-22-2013, 22:37

Originally Posted by 7eat51

Ed, why is it that whenever I log on, you usually have a post that makes me laugh.

Whenever I log on, you usually have a post that I learn from.
I spent my Juvy, I mean juvenile years in Chicago. We must have the same take on humor.

**Coog** · 10-22-2013, 22:41

Unfortunately I don't think we will see any War of 1812 ships, other than the somewhat currently out of place 44, until 2015 at the earliest and more likely 2016. Wave 2 seems to be already planned and should be coming out in 2014. I don't know if Ares has any ideas on where they are going with wave 3.