Ship Bases

**Capn Duff** · 05-28-2021, 12:12

A long time coming, my apologies, but I have been able to contact a company using mdf to see about extra ship bases for the new 3d/ metal ships.

Dimensioned as per the original bases and with a perspex inlay.
A rough cost is looking around £1 per base.
I haven't asked for a hole to be drilled as some may prefer to stick the ship directly to the perspex, but I assume that should not be to difficult to accommodate.
I will post a pic sometime tomorrow.

Soooooo I was wondering if anyone else was interested in these. I am looking to get a sample posted to me shortly, but it may help if I can say I know x number who would be interested in purchasing, no commitments here, basically a show of hands and about how many.
For me I am looking at around 15 for my extra ships.

here is the pic

**Bligh** · 05-28-2021, 14:03

Yes Chris I will join you in your exploit. That will free up a few bases for my other ships.

Rob.

**David Manley** · 05-28-2021, 14:08

I'd be up for a dozen or so. I have no immediate need but I'm sure something will come up if I don't and perhaps if we go for more the price will be a bit less

**Diamondback** · 05-28-2021, 19:25

Other than the nuisance of cross-Pond shipping I'd be interested as long as the bottom base is hollow so I can stick magnets in there.

Then again, if my old neighbor can make some base holders from scrap windowframes separating pieces for casing may become moot... If I were designing a case for you guys with U-channel sections to slot bases into, would brass U-channel in a wooden case be acceptable or do I need All Wood All The Time for period feel?

**Lieste** · 05-28-2021, 20:30

Ideally all whalebone or narwhale ivory. Wood is a very 'second tier' material.

**Diamondback** · 05-28-2021, 20:36

Keep dreaming... such a project does require readily available commercial materials if it's to be kept affordable; the idea I'm thinking of is a wooden case with sockets you set Ares ship bases into then close and latch a door over them and it's secure enough for transport while still suitable to hang on a wall for display.

**David Manley** · 05-28-2021, 23:37

Originally Posted by Lieste

Ideally all whalebone or narwhale ivory....

Only slightly illegal

**TexaS** · 05-29-2021, 00:36

Interested. I would want to know more about them, but if I like them I would get at least 20.

**Bligh** · 05-29-2021, 00:47

Originally Posted by Lieste

Ideally all whalebone or narwhale ivory. Wood is a very 'second tier' material.

Shame on you sir, for denigrating so the wooden walls of England which have kept us safe this last three hundred years!

Signed, a Brithish foremast Jack and proud of it.

His mark x

**Bligh** · 05-29-2021, 01:01

Originally Posted by Diamondback

Other than the nuisance of cross-Pond shipping I'd be interested as long as the bottom base is hollow so I can stick magnets in there.

Then again, if my old neighbor can make some base holders from scrap windowframes separating pieces for casing may become moot... If I were designing a case for you guys with U-channel sections to slot bases into, would brass U-channel in a wooden case be acceptable or do I need All Wood All The Time for period feel?

No problem with Brass bound cases as I see it DB, although Admiralty Brass would be preferable.

Bligh.

**Diamondback** · 05-29-2021, 01:51

Originally Posted by Bligh

No problem with Brass bound cases as I see it DB, although Admiralty Brass would be preferable.

Bligh.

I'm even toying with the idea of brass-painted styrene in the interests of affordability... the securing method I'm thinking of would be a section of U-channel each on port and starboard sides (one each at case rear and on door), and a short section each at bow and stern on the side away from the door. Dusting off the old design study I did and trying to both catch up with COTS materials and economize for production... :)

**Capn Duff** · 05-29-2021, 04:40

Pic attached to first post

**TexaS** · 05-29-2021, 06:55

I'm in.

**Bligh** · 05-29-2021, 07:18

Look fine to me Chris.
I'm in for 15.
How do you want to be paid Chris?
Rob.

**Capn Duff** · 05-29-2021, 07:46

Originally Posted by Bligh

Look fine to me Chris.
I'm in for 15.
How do you want to be paid Chris?
Rob.

Nothing at this time, I have asked the sample be sent to me to check out. Once done I will ask if he would prefer a bulk order or individuals.
Jonas sent you a pm

**Bligh** · 05-29-2021, 08:08

Thanks for all your trouble Chris.
Rob.

**Capn Duff** · 05-30-2021, 02:18

A question chaps, for these bases would you prefer to have the hole drilled in the centre or left not drilled

**Bligh** · 05-30-2021, 02:28

For myself undrilled would be fine Chris.

Rob.

**TexaS** · 05-30-2021, 12:35

Undrilled is fine. My use will not need a hole anyway.

**Capn Duff** · 06-02-2021, 01:09

The sample is on its way, once I receive Ill post a few pics with the ships and Ares versions to compare.

**Capn Duff** · 06-05-2021, 13:26

The base comes in three parts

the base, the perspex overlay and the surround

The surround is fragile so you need to be careful and it needs to be glued onto the base.
The pic shows the three parts, I shall post further later to show the base against a current one.

**Bligh** · 06-05-2021, 15:36

Looks OK to me Chris.

Bit of blue paint will soon fix it up.

Rob.

**Diamondback** · 06-05-2021, 15:48

Chris, would you mind checking to see if a magnet will attract a washer through both layers? I'm looking at these as a potential solution for basing my Turner (and future Simon Mann) ships, along with spares for Ares ones.

**Capn Duff** · 06-05-2021, 16:58

Originally Posted by Diamondback

Chris, would you mind checking to see if a magnet will attract a washer through both layers? I'm looking at these as a potential solution for basing my Turner (and future Simon Mann) ships, along with spares for Ares ones.

Will do, neeed to check if have a magnet first though

**Capn Duff** · 06-05-2021, 16:59

Originally Posted by Bligh

Looks OK to me Chris.

Bit of blue paint will soon fix it up.

Rob.

My thoughts precisely

**TexaS** · 06-06-2021, 00:13

Yep. Will do nicely.

Could you put it together and take a picture of it next to an original?

If it's just the base that makes the height I'm guessing it will be lower?

**Capn Duff** · 06-06-2021, 02:41

Will be doing so later Jonas, just waiting for the glue to dry, but the difference in height is negligable if at all

**Capn Duff** · 06-06-2021, 03:09

here we go

plan view

side elevation

side elevation with ship hulls

**TexaS** · 06-06-2021, 03:15

Perhaps I should get 30, not 20, if still possible...

**Bligh** · 06-06-2021, 13:25

Just the ticket Chris.
Rob.

**Diamondback** · 06-06-2021, 13:31

So just a little too shallow for my purposes unless I add "feet" at the corners to make room for heavy-duty magnet ship mounts, but still looks workable.

**Capn Duff** · 06-06-2021, 14:23

Hi DB, havent found my magnets, well the earth magnets for gimbal use, but the base is 3mm thick so to add a magnetbyou would have rto drill through and glue in place, paper on top for the ship stats and then perspex. Hope it works for you.

So my next step is to see how many we all need then I can ask how long and costings.

So let me know chaps and Ill see about best way to get them

**Bligh** · 06-06-2021, 15:23

I think 15 will sort out all my ships from Henry Chris.

Rob.

**Diamondback** · 06-06-2021, 18:28

Pencil me in for 25; we'll need to work out shipping through Rob by email.

**TexaS** · 06-06-2021, 22:09

I'll take thirty then.

**Bligh** · 06-07-2021, 03:47

I will take your order Chris and pay DB. You can settle with me later.

Rob.

**TexaS** · 06-07-2021, 04:09

How will you handle payment, Chris?

**Capn Duff** · 06-07-2021, 06:53

Ok it looks like numbers are as follows

Rob 15
Jonas 30
Db 25
Chris 25
Dave Manley 12

Total 107

**Capn Duff** · 06-08-2021, 10:39

I will contact the company and see what arrangements are needed ref the order.

Rob I will contact you this coming weekend.
Jonas I will pm you in a couple of days.

**Diamondback** · 06-08-2021, 12:01

Chris, if there's some notch close to 107 where adding a few more gets us a better deal, let us know how many more we need and I'll break out the abacus and slide-rule and start working the budget numbers to see what I can contribute toward that.

**Bligh** · 06-08-2021, 12:56

Anything else needed like that and I am happy to go in with you chaps for a bit more.

Rob.

**Capn Duff** · 06-09-2021, 05:40

Have now painted the base and it looks more like the originals, I have noticed more now that the new base looks to be 1mm thinner in width, but not overly out of spec.
I will ask if this can be rectified before making the full order.

**TexaS** · 06-09-2021, 08:32

A millimeter doesn’t worry me. It’ll only effect collisions and muskets a little. Length is more important, but a millimeter is still almost negligible.

**Bligh** · 06-09-2021, 12:47

Originally Posted by Capn Duff

Have now painted the base and it looks more like the originals, I have noticed more now that the new base looks to be 1mm thinner in width, but not overly out of spec.
I will ask if this can be rectified before making the full order.

How does it effect the fit of the ship card within the frame Chris?

Rob.

**Capn Duff** · 06-09-2021, 14:39

It doesnt, if you making your own, mine have all fit ok. Not tried an official one, will do tomorrowcRob

**Bligh** · 06-09-2021, 15:36

Thanks Chris.
Rob.

**Capn Duff** · 06-14-2021, 05:42

Had word back from Pendraken, they have all in stock, will take about a week including postage times, so if everyone happy I will order and we can then sort out the money side.