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    While we're at it, 3-deckers...

    Ship Madrid drawing
    1765 San Carlos 94 (note the backswept, archaic-style upper stem and huge "porch" galleries)
    1769 Santissima Trinidad 114 threedecker
    1779 Purisima Concepcion 112
    1780s unknown 112 (Meregildos class or maybe San Carlos rebuild?)
    1784 Santa Ana 112
    1780s second unknown 112
    1790s unknown 90
    1800 another Meregildos
    1804 unknown 112 by Retamosa (another Meregildos?)
    Obviously these are not all to same scale, but does this look like a better way to compare drawings? (Also obviously, it only works with the smaller Madrid images.)
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    Certainly seems to show up the different traits better for me, but that could be because for the first time in 3 years I got some new reading glasses from the Optician this week. No! I didn't go out, he came to me. Anyway those ships work for me DB.
    Thanks once again for your diligent work in presenting all this information for us all.
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    Taking a second run at Madrid's holdings in the 68-74 size class...

    Ship Madrid drawing
    1766 San Juan Nepomuceno
    1769 unk 76(80?) to older Jorge Juan system
    1769 Gautier 70/74 - ?San Francisco de Paula
    1770 Gautier 70/74 - ?San Pedro Apostol
    1794 Landa drawing for Ildefonsos
    1790s unknown 74, susp another Ildefonso
    [edit: Montanes?]
    1799 unknown 74
    1801 Ildefonso-cl San Telmo
    1801 Ildefonsos w/gallery as framing only
    1803 Retamosa nom. 74 - ?Montanes class
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    Obviously, again, these are not all to same scale.
    Last edited by Diamondback; 07-10-2021 at 23:35.
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    I feel that a bit more rep gunfire is in order here DB.

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