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    Following in your footsteps once again, Rob, I have begun cutting out foam pieces for doing coastline in 3D.

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    One thing that did occur to me was, how did you make the joints between pieces universal? Your coastline looks very cohesive.

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    After cutting them all out, I just had to get a feel for what it would look like. It's a lot of land. This is going to take a lot of supplies. More white glue and primer needed!

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    The bandsaw is a time saver isn't it? Anxious to see the progress on this Dobbs!

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    My Bandsaw has finally given up the ghost after many years of service. For my last project I was reduced to using my scroll saw. i am now frantically saving up for a new Bandsaw.
    I started off the same way as you Dobbs, just with the copies of the official coastline and then went onto the forts. Then it was fitting historical forts with the existing terrain ends. One tip if I may. Once you have formed your first piece of landscape in 3D make a template of the end where it joins the next. i used a plastic offcut for this and marked it template on both sides so as not to discard it with the rubbish. Whatever the contour of the piece, as long as all the ends are the same shape you will be able to juxtapose any of them in whatever configureation you wish for. The square corner pieces are critical in this respect. Hope I'm not teaching my grandmother to suck eggs.

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    The contour shaper was what I had in mind, too. I just didn't want to overlook a solution if I was missing something.

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    I found that my scroll saw with an omnidirectional blade was the ticket. The bandsaw did play a role, cutting the perpendicular straights where the pieces meet.

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    I like the adjustable throat on your Delta Dobbs. Mine is a bit more limited, and it is sometimes a bit of a juggle to get large bits of scenics through the gap.
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    The sod farm delivered today and now I have grass! Next up, a delivery of sand and rocks from the quarry...

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    Looks as if you have been truly grassed up Dobbs!

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    The way they currently look reminds me of a view of Dover from the Channel...

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    An instant gratification test.

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    I thought about making the cliffs white, Bill, but decided to go understated instead.

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    Looking good Dobbs. Next the Fortifications.

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    Looking good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeRuyter View Post
    Looking good!
    I can't wait till we can use them together! Here's the latest developments:

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    Suzanne suggested blue felt as a playing surface. She thought it might be less slippery than vinyl. Initial reports are optimistic.
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    You have a very nice bay there Dobbs. Felt sounds good to me. I am finding it harder to stop ships slipping when moving cards under them than I used to do, and bits can easily be cleaned off it with a Vac attatchment.

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    That blue actually looks really good, like the water in the Caribbean. Nice shoreline Dobbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volunteer View Post
    That blue actually looks really good, like the water in the Caribbean. Nice shoreline Dobbs.
    Thanks, Vol! Suzanne and I picked it because it reminds us of sailing in the Caribbean. That's the color ocean should be!

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    Yes it is! I haven't been to the Caribbean for 50 years, but I have fond memories of it. I also have fond memories of the South Pacific islands. I believe Fiji's Yasawa islands are paradise on earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobbs View Post
    Thanks, Vol! Suzanne and I picked it because it reminds us of sailing in the Caribbean. That's the color ocean should be!
    Sure you don't want greenish brown colors of the Chesapeake?

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    Do you mean this sort of colour Eric?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeRuyter View Post
    Sure you don't want greenish brown colors of the Chesapeake?
    That's why I feel so comfortable playing on the table on Grace with no mat. I feel it captures the color.

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    It did not look that bad when we were there as you can see from my photo!
    However I have seen estuaries looking just that muddy colour in spate, so that was quite an astute choice of table top Dobbs.

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    You are right about the lower Chesapeake, Rob. The water down there almost looks like ocean water sometimes. 150 miles to the north, however, it has days when it looks like coffee with too much creamer!

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    How far up are you Dobbs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    How far up are you Dobbs?
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    I just saw this Rob. We're at the very top. You can see the mouth of the Susquehanna from our community beach. Where we are is really freshwater. Where you were in Virginia is basically ocean water.

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    I'm really happy with my progress so far. All that remains is adding shrubbery and maybe roads. I'm torn on roads, because if I have them go off a connecting edge, I have to have a road on each edge of every piece to keep them interchangeable.

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    Suggestion: Maybe consider drilling some small holes in the ends and installing small magnets to hold them together as tables get jostled?

    As for roads, I wouldn't unless you're specifically mimicking Ares official pieces that do have them.
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    For my coastal paths I have some wend their way off and on along the back, with the odd path or track running down to a cove for landing actions. The only ones with a defined edge route are for those which have to always be adjacent like the ones expanding to fit the harbour sections or where they fit in with a fortification. As mine go up to the backboard I don't join them with anything at their ends. The exception to this is for parts which obtrude into the playing area in more than one piece, where I put a removable dowel in the ends with a hole in the adjoining piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Suggestion: Maybe consider drilling some small holes in the ends and installing small magnets to hold them together as tables get jostled?

    As for roads, I wouldn't unless you're specifically mimicking Ares official pieces that do have them.
    Hmmm, I like this magnet idea. I think I'll insert a magnet on the left of each piece and a screw on the right. That way I don't have to worry about polarity.

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    Should do the trick. I may even follow suit Dobbs. let me know how you fare.
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    Looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobbs View Post
    Hmmm, I like this magnet idea. I think I'll insert a magnet on the left of each piece and a screw on the right. That way I don't have to worry about polarity.
    Or epoxy a nut or washer in there, whatever gives a cheaper "cost per item."
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    If you can get washers with the smaller holes in them it gives a better area of attraction. A pair of magnets would be too strong when it came to disassembly. That may end up damaging your terain model.

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    Good work, Dobbs! Your coastline is looking great.

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    I was looking for something else and came upon this. Excellent Dobbs it makes a huge difference to the table. I like the colour of your water, very Caribbean, much warmer than the Atlantic if my aged memory serves me right.

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    I'm really happy with my progress so far. All that remains is adding shrubbery and maybe roads. I'm torn on roads, because if I have them go off a connecting edge, I have to have a road on each edge of every piece to keep them interchangeable.
    Looking really good, Dobbs. Skipped the roads - strictly for landlubbers on which to get lost. But definitely go with the shrubbery - with a two-level effect - and maybe a path running down the middle but no roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowDragon View Post
    Looking really good, Dobbs. Skipped the roads - strictly for landlubbers on which to get lost. But definitely go with the shrubbery - with a two-level effect - and maybe a path running down the middle but no roads.
    A path, a path! (Monty Python)

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    Here's an interesting cascade of non sequiturs.

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    A few years back, I thought it might be fun to mass produce wooden Beyer Garrett locomotive toys.

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    Only a few were finished.

    But I have plenty of magnets left over.

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    I am impressed Dobbs.
    I will now be on a magnet hunt.
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    I have equipped my coastal pieces with magnets and screws and call it a success! The pieces don't "click" together, but the magnets definitely remind the terrain where it belongs in the event of a table jostle. I think installing the magnets and screws before painting is the better strategy. Because of the strength of the paint and sealing glue, my retrofitting tore the foam sometimes, though not to the point of loss.

    For inserting the magnets, I used a 1/2" flat tip wood bore drill bit (as seen in my last post).
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    Thats OK Dobbs. I have one of those. A tip on preventing tear out. Before you drill stick a piece of masking tape over the spot and it will preserve your foam. I may even resort to using my Router for the ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    Thats OK Dobbs. I have one of those. A tip on preventing tear out. Before you drill stick a piece of masking tape over the spot and it will preserve your foam. I may even resort to using my Router for the ends.

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    That's a really good tip, Rob! And thanks for the rep points!

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    You are welcome on both counts Dobbs. I had a look at some magnets this evening, and was wondering what strength you used? Enough to hold but not too strong to part easily. The ones I saw are all 1KG strength or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    You are welcome on both counts Dobbs. I had a look at some magnets this evening, and was wondering what strength you used? Enough to hold but not too strong to part easily. The ones I saw are all 1KG strength or more.

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    I honestly don't know how strong they are. I bought them because they were recommended for making wooden trains.

    If you can't find anything you like, I could send you some.

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    Thanks for the offer Dobbs. I will keep that in mind.
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