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    Personally I'm fine with it as long as I can eventually buy the stretched models at a later date along with 1000th masts and sails. I was intending to do that anyway, once you have cleared your backlog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    Personally I'm fine with it as long as I can eventually buy the stretched models at a later date along with 1000th masts and sails. I was intending to do that anyway, once you have cleared your backlog.
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    Sure, I'm perfectly happy to offer that - it's not a question of being unwilling to furnish the models, more being in a bit of a panic about the sheer volume that need to be produced within a defined window!


    I also have to admit that, the damages suffered by customers in the US and Australia before, when I've shipped there, have left me very nervous - I'd been sending bare hulls simply padded in shredded newspaper, and cannon/lantern breakages were unfortunately common. So this time I'm going to be wrapping the ships in tissue, then in "sausage rolls" of bubble wrap, with more bubble wrap lining the box and shredding to buffer it all up. I hope that'll be enough!

    This all sounds sort of silly on the surface (and very much a matter of common sense) but it's interesting what little hurdles you can come up against when going into miniature selling/production for the first time!

    What I hope, one day, is to either:
    -Move to a new home where I can accommodate 2-3 printers
    -Hire someone/outsource my printing
    -Find someone who's willing to buy a commercial licence

    Any of the above would allow me to do all this much more comfortably :) Suffice to say the current setup is less than ideal (tiny digs in a small square room; my bed's just beyond that radiator!):
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    Hoping I'll be able to move out soon(ish) upon "striking lucky" with a secondary Kickstarter. My current model is to put out an Age of Sail one every 3-4 months, on a rolling basis, that'll bring in enough to keep me doing all this full-time, but I currently dedicate about 2 hours a day to side projects; one of which I'm very enthusiastic about but keeping a lid on for the time being :) Idea is to use that time to create the odd "experimental" Kickstarter, which is already ready upon being announced (so as to guarantee I don't take any time away from my existing commitments) that could prove fiendishly popular or an utter bomb.

    Guess I'm a gambler :)

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    That is fine Henry. Im so used to having to mend booms and masts on Ares ships that a lanthorn ot two would not bother me at all, but I can see that from your viewpoint with a reputation to build up, you would not like an adverse press at the onset. I think that offering the models at the 1000th scale will be a good move on your part for those of us who wish to complement our fleets with those ships not covered by Ares. I am especially keen to get my Dutch Fleet underway.
    my best wishes for the New Year to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    That is fine Henry. Im so used to having to mend booms and masts on Ares ships that a lanthorn ot two would not bother me at all, but I can see that from your viewpoint with a reputation to build up, you would not like an adverse press at the onset. I think that offering the models at the 1000th scale will be a good move on your part for those of us who wish to complement our fleets with those ships not covered by Ares. I am especially keen to get my Dutch Fleet underway.
    my best wishes for the New Year to you.
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    Speaking of the Dutch, I've had a bit of a Dutch day!

    A customer who I sold some prints to when I (briefly) offered to fulfill physical orders, sent me these pictures of my Dutch 74 - he has it fulfilling the role of Hornblower's HMS Sutherland in this diorama:
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    And, furthermore, today I began work on a Dutch frigate for my Anglo-Dutch range:
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    The final somewhat exciting bit of news, too - I spoke at length with a model manufacturer and he was really urging me to consider commissioning resin/pewter production of my ships and selling physical products. He walked me through how he did it himself and, well, it all seems rather achievable! I'm sorely tempted to make my next naval Kickstarter an attempt to weigh-in with generic ships - perhaps starting with, say, a Leda-class, Temeraire and Tonnant.

    However, I'm not sure if that'd be of interest to you guys? I'm assuming that my value is more as a potential provider of niche ships that Ares hasn't covered - and that's rather at odds with producing ships with mass appeal that will sell enough to cover their production costs. I'm happy to do both, however, as it doesn't seem like digital design and selling physical miniatures are mutually exclusive occupations :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryTurner View Post
    Speaking of the Dutch, I've had a bit of a Dutch day!

    A customer who I sold some prints to when I (briefly) offered to fulfill physical orders, sent me these pictures of my Dutch 74 - he has it fulfilling the role of Hornblower's HMS Sutherland in this diorama:
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    And, furthermore, today I began work on a Dutch frigate for my Anglo-Dutch range:
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    The final somewhat exciting bit of news, too - I spoke at length with a model manufacturer and he was really urging me to consider commissioning resin/pewter production of my ships and selling physical products. He walked me through how he did it himself and, well, it all seems rather achievable! I'm sorely tempted to make my next naval Kickstarter an attempt to weigh-in with generic ships - perhaps starting with, say, a Leda-class, Temeraire and Tonnant.

    However, I'm not sure if that'd be of interest to you guys? I'm assuming that my value is more as a potential provider of niche ships that Ares hasn't covered - and that's rather at odds with producing ships with mass appeal that will sell enough to cover their production costs. I'm happy to do both, however, as it doesn't seem like digital design and selling physical miniatures are mutually exclusive occupations :)
    Henry, that might be another opportunity for you, as I mentioned in our email. Even within those there are variations and room to be different--the basic Leda is a straight copy of a French Hebe but there was also a "fir-built" version with a squared-off stern I don't expect to see anytime soon, the Cydnus class. Temeraires you have the Duquesnes (minor improved), Cassard (Large 74 version) and Pluton ("shallow-draft model") versions along with the British Pompee and America clones and the direct-ancestor Annibals, and there's the two variations of Tonnant-Bucentaure. Guess what I'm trying to say is, even within the "commodity classes" there's still room to do your own thing and carve a niche for yourself there too.
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    I like your Dutch 74 Henry. Is that any specific ship or just a generic type?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    I like your Dutch 74 Henry. Is that any specific ship or just a generic type?
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    It's an early kit of mine which I intend to redo, I just attempted to give it a new lease on life by updating the deck fittings and planking to be more in-line with my current models. It's a hybrid kit that's got two stern options included to allow for the printing of either Washington or Prins Maurits. I wouldn't say it's a totally accurate model, but it roughly corresponds to the 74s like Vrijheid.

    By the way, everyone, here's a rather daft question I ought've asked earlier - is there anything I should do on the 1/1000 sculpts to make them visually compatible with Ares' ships?

    Looking at the ships, I see some have spars across their spar decks, with boats stowed as if the ships aren't in combat, and there are also the large flagstaffs on the stern - is there any consistency with this stuff? I assume people won't want me to put a large flagstaff, but how about flag poles - are they needed for attaching paper ensigns for gameplay purposes? As for spars and boats - it's always been my policy to not include them because the spars would be taken down and the boats trailed behind the ship in combat. But will that make my models stick out?

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