American Frigates

[Diamondback]

Between the Naval Action forum (they stole my Stretching Sculpts content here, so I feel fair-game returning the favor) and a few other places, I've started putting together data and drawings trying to see if we can cluster enough ships together to rate a sculpt each of 24's, 28's, 32's and 18-pdr's. We know we need a mainline version of Constitution...

So we'll start with the 32's and Mediums, since there's less to work with. I'm including the 12pdr 28 Virginia, since she was the size of a 12pdr 32, and same with Providence and sister Trumbull.

12pdr 32's in actual rate or "de facto," interestingly most of these uprated to 12pdr 36's:
1776 Hancock 41.63x10.82, 24x12# + 10x6# (becomes 1778 HMS Iris, 1781 FNS Iris)
1776 Raleigh 40.06x10.49, 26x12# + 6x12# (becomes 1778 HMS Raleigh, QD/FC downgraded to 6#)
1776 Randolph 40.46x10.52, 26x12# + 10x6#
1776 Warren 40.26x10.49, 12x18# & 14x12# + 8x9#
1776 Providence 38.57x10.26, 26x12 + 6x6# (becomes HMS Providence)
1776 Trumbull - no hull data but similar to Providence, 24x12# + 6x6#
1776 Virginia 38.49x10.62, 24x9# + 4x9# (becomes HMS Virginia, refit as 26x12/6x6 32-gunner)
1799 Essex 42.24x11.37, 26x12# + 10x6#
1800 New York 44.32x11.61, 26x18# + 20(?)x32#crde
1799 Adams 34.44x10.36, 24x12# + 4x6#
1799 General Greene 37.87x10.57, 24x12# + 6x6#
1799 John Adams 38.94x10.13, 24x12# + 6x24#crde
1799 Boston 40.84x10.52, 24x12# + 8x9#
My gut would say if the plans come out sufficiently similar, we could approximate all of these except Adams with one sculpt and then differentiate them via maneuver decks and log stats. Adams is closer to the size of a USN nominal-24, so again assuming the profiles fit I would slide her onto that sculpt with buffed stats. Confederacy is not discussed here despite her 12# battery because she was the size of an 18pdr and sister Alliance carried 18's, so she goes with her sister and gets a stat nerf. New York is a bit bigger than the others, about the size of a Concorde or a Mahonesa. IF these all fit as a "cluster," this gives us an even dozen US-flag ships or 6 SKU's, plus 4 more British ships for 2 SKU's.





Allen's redrawing of 1800 New York appears very similar to Philadelphia

1799 Boston


Alliance 46.02x10.97, 28x18#
Confederacy (becomes HMS Confederate) 47.17x11.28, 26x12# (probably just loaded whatever they could get, like Warren's mixed UD battery)
Constellation 49.99x12.5,
Congress 49.99x12.5
Philadelphia 47.85x11.89
Chesapeake (becomes HMS Chesapeake) 46.33x12.47

Based on what we see here, my thought would be to cluster all six of these hulls onto one sculpt and differentiate them in the gun lines. This would give us 8 ships or 4 double-sided SKU's. So this would hit four major American groups with just two sculpts... what's the verdict of those more knowledgeable and with better eyes--is this something worth including as I update my Proposed Roadmap for Ares, or is it back to the drawing board?