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    Okay, here we go... just a start for assembling data, I'll fill in blanks in between rounds of fighting with a crippled laptop.

    Date/Event Ships Req'd Opfor Ships Special Notes
    1800 May 11
    Cutting-out of Sandwich
    USS Constitution
    American small sloop
    Unknown British frigate
    French corvette, ex-HM Packet Sandwich
    Spanish fort at Puerto Plata
    poorly documented
    1804 Aug 3
    Bombardment of Tripoli
    need more info
    1812 Jul 21
    Squadron Escape
    USS Consttitution 64 HMS Africa (SGN114)
    38 HMS Shannon (SGN105)
    38 HMS Guerriere (SGN105)
    36 HMS Belvidera (uncertain)
    32 HMS Aeolus (uncertain)
    needs a lot of Special Rules
    1812 Aug 19
    Guerriere
    USS Constitution 38 HMS Guerriere (SGN105)
    1812 Dec 30
    Java
    USS Constitution 38 HMS Java (SGN105)
    1815 Feb 20
    Cyane & Levant
    USS Constitution 20 HMS Levant
    Levant is a flushdecker, akin to a bigger version of USS Thorn. (464 tons vs 305; 20x32#crde vs 18-20x6#). I would start with a Swan model, bulk up Thorn's hull and gunnery stats but weaken maneuverability. Banterers like Cyane are problematic; they have full QD/FC and are 8' shorter than a 1773 Amazon 32.

    Proposed stats for playtest:
    Ship HMS Cyane HMS Levant USS Constitution 1812
    Burden 2 2 5
    Boxes 8 8 9
    Veer 7-8 7-8 5
    Man Deck better than A/C
    worse than G
    better than A/C
    worse than G
    L
    Main Battery 22x32#crde 20x32#crde 30x24#
    Sec. Battery 6x18#crde 2x6# 20x32#crde
    Ter. Battery 4x6# NA 2x24# (stern chaser)
    Total BSW (kg) 190 148 400
    Main Gun-line 3-3-2-2-2-1-1-X 3-2-2-2-1-1-1-X 6-5-5-5-4-3-3-2-1-X

    My gut says these gun stats are a little weak; they're based on "Generic Heavy/Light Sixth Rate" stats I cut down from the Amazons; even though they're both Light (20-22 gun ratings) Levant throws half-again the broadside of a 12-pdr 32 and Cyane almost double.
    Last edited by Diamondback; 09-24-2020 at 11:39.
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