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    HMS Vengeur (1810)



    HMS Vengeur was a Peake and Rule Armada Class, 74 gun ship of the line, ordered on the 20th of October 1806, and built by Joseph Graham at Harwich. Laid down in the July of 1807 she was launched on the 19th of June, 1810, and completed on the 30th of October 1810 at Chatham.

    History
    GREAT BRITAIN
    Name: HMS Vengeur
    Ordered: 20 October 1806
    Builder: Graham, Harwich
    Laid down: July 1807
    Launched: 19 June 1810
    Fate: Broken up, 1843
    General characteristics
    Class and type: Armada Class, 74 gun ship of the line
    Tons burthen: 1764 (bm)
    Length: 176 ft 5 in (53.7 m) (gundeck)
    Beam: 47 ft 9.5 in (14.6 m)
    Depth of hold: 21 ft (6.4 m)
    Propulsion: Sails
    Sail plan: Full rigged ship
    Armament: ·Gundeck: 28 × 32-pounder guns
    ·Upper gundeck: 28 × 18-pounder guns
    ·QD: 4 × 12-pounder guns + 10 × 32-pounder Carronades
    ·Fc: 2 × 12-pounder guns + 2 × 32-pounder Carronades
    ·Poop deck: 6 × 18-pounder Carronades


    Plan for the Vengeur.



    Service.

    HMS Vengeur was commissioned in the September of 1810 under Captain Thomas Brown. From 1811 she became the flagship of Admiral Sir Joseph Sidney Yorke. Brown escorted to Portugal a large body of troops sent as reinforcements to the Duke of Wellington's army there. Vengeur then cruised the Western Isles to protect an inbound fleet of East Indiamen.
    Brown's replacement in November 1811 was Captain James Brisbane who commanded until the August of 1812 .
    On the 26th of June, 1813, she sailed for Jamaica.

    Robert Tristram Ricketts took command of Vengeur there in the October of 1813.

    Vengeur, Lightning, and Madagascar were in company on the 6th of March, 1814, at the recapture of the Diamond.

    In the May of that year the 9th Regiment of Foot marched from Bayonne to Bordeaux and embarked on HMS York and Vengeur to sail to Quebec to add support to the British Army already in the fight against the Americans during the War of 1812.

    Vengeur then joined Vice Admiral Alexander Cochrane's fleet moored off New Orleans. The Commanding Officer of the Vengeur's Marine detachment, Brevet Major Thomas Adair, was made a Companion of the Order of the Bath for leading a party of 100 Royal Marines on a successful assault of the left bank of the Mississippi River. Although the strongpoint was taken, and seventeen cannon were captured, the battle was lost as the right bank remained impregnable. Of the two fatalities among the Royal Marines, one was from HMS Vengeur.

    Ricketts commanded the British naval forces at the Second Battle of Fort Bowyer, the British attack on the American fort at Mobile Point in 1815. The British then attacked and captured Fort Bowyer at the mouth of Mobile Bay on 12 February. The British were making preparations to attack Mobile when news arrived of the peace treaty. The Treaty of Ghent had been ratified by the British Parliament but would not be ratified by Congress and the President until mid-February.

    Captain Thomas Alexander took command in the August of 1815 and Vengeur served as a guardship at Portsmouth from the June 1816 until the May of 1818. From the October to the December of that year she was recommissioned and fitted out for sea.

    Frederick Lewis Maitland took command of Vengeur’s recommissioning in the October of 1818, and in 1819 sailed her to South America. He took Lord George Beresford from Rio de Janeiro to Lisbon in 1820, and then returned to the Mediterranean. He then carried Ferdinand I, King of the Two Sicilies from Naples to Livorno, on his way to attend the Congress of Laibach (modern Ljubljana). The passage was rough and lasted seven days, but they arrived safely on 20 December. After His Majesty landed, he personally invested Maitland with the insignia of a knight-commander of the order of St. Ferdinand and of Merit, and gave him a gold box with the king's portrait set in diamonds.




    Vengeur in Naples Bay with the Neapolitan flag at her main masthead, 1820, by Nicolas S. Cammillieri

    Maitland and Vengeur then returned to England, arriving at Spithead on 29 March 1821. Vengeur was found to be defective and was paid off on 18 May 1821 at Chatham.

    Fate.

    She was fitted as a receiving ship between July 1823 and February 1824. She then travelled to Sheerness where she served as a receiving ship until 1838. She was broken there up in the August of 1843.
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    HMS Conquestador (1810)

    HMS Conquestador was an Armada Class, Peake and Rule designed 74-gun third rate ship of the line, ordered on the 20th of October 1806, and built by Robert Guillaume at Northam. She was laid down in the August of 1807, and launched on the 1st of August, 1810. She was completed and fitted between the 6th of that month, and the 21st of March, 1811 at Portsmouth.


    Conquestador




    History
    GREAT BRITAIN
    Name: HMS Conquestador
    Ordered: 20 October 1806
    Builder: Guillam, Northam
    Laid down: August 1807
    Launched: 1 August 1810
    Fate: Sold, 1897
    General characteristics
    Class and type: Armada Class 74 gun ship of the line
    Tons burthen: 1773 (bm)
    Length: 176 ft 4 in (54 m) (gundeck)
    Beam: 47 ft 11 in (14.49 m)
    Depth of hold: 21 ft 1 in (6.4 m)
    Propulsion: Sails
    Sail plan: Full rigged ship
    Armament: ·74 guns:
    ·Gundeck: 28 × 32 pdrs
    ·Upper gundeck: 28 × 18 pdrs
    ·Quarterdeck: 4 × 12 pdrs, 10 × 32 pdr Carronades Forecastle: 2 × 12 pdrs, 2 × 32 pdr Carronades
    ·Poop deck: 6 × 18 pdr Carronades

    Service.


    HMS Conquestador was commissioned by Captain Lord William Stuart in the September of 1810 intended for Channel service as the Flagship of Admiral Lord Keith which duty she assumed from the May of 1812.

    She spent 1814 on the West indies station and on her return to England went into ordinary at Chatham during 1815. Between the May of that year and the April of 1816 she underwent a small repair and was housed over at Woolwich for the sum of £20,783. She was then laid up once more at Sheerness. Several more small repairs were necessary between that date and 1827 when by Admiralty Orders she was cut down to a 50-gun Fourth Rate Frigate for £17.202.

    Conquestador was loaned out to the war Department at Woolwich in the December of 1856, and then to Purfleet in 1860. She became a Powder magazine to replace Amazon by admiralty Order in the December of 1862 until the February of 1863. She then continued as such at Plymouth between 1870 and 1890.

    Fate.

    Conquestador was sold out of the Navy to Harry Scrawn for £1,525 on the 10th of May,1897.
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    HMS Edinburgh (1811)




    Edinburgh


    HMS Edinburgh was a Peake and Rule designed Armada Class, 74 gun third rate ship of the line, ordered on the 13th of July,1807 and built by Samuel and Daniel Brent at Rotherhithe. She was laid down in the November of that year, and launched on the 26th of November,1811. Fitting and completion took place between the 7th of February and the 7th of May in that same year at Woolwich.




    A view of the Commercial Docks in 1813 by William Daniell, two years after Edinburgh was built.
    A ship enters the lock and to the left and right of the lock yo
    u can see Greenland South and North shipyards,
    both with ships in dock.



    History
    GREAT BRITAIN
    Name: HMS Edinburgh
    Ordered: 13 July 1807
    Builder: Brent, Rotherhithe
    Laid down:
    November 1807
    Launched: 26 November 1811
    Fate: Sold, 1866
    General characteristics
    Class and type: Armada Class 74 gun ship of the line
    Tons burthen: 1772 (bm)
    Length:
    176 ft 6 in (54 m) (gundeck)
    Beam: 47 ft 10.5 in (14.48 m)
    Depth of hold: 21 ft 0.5 in (6.4 m)
    Propulsion: Sails
    Sail plan: Full rigged ship
    Armament: ·74 guns:
    ·Gundeck: 28 × 32 pdrs

    ·Upper gundeck: 28 × 18 pdrs
    ·Quarterdeck: 4 × 12 pdrs, 10 × 32 pdr carronades Forecastle: 2 × 12 pdrs, 2 × 32 pdr carronades
    Poop deck: 6 × 18 pdr carronades

    Service.


    HMS Edinburgh was commissioned by Captain Robert Rolles in the June of 1811.


    On the 8th of January 1812 she sailed for the Med. In the November of that year she came ubder Captain George Dundas. On the 30th of May his ship took part in operations in the Gulf of Spezia, during which cruise on the 5th of October her ships boats were in action off Anzio. She was under several Captains that year, including Thomas Mainwaring,Thomas Ussher and finally John Lampen Manley.


    Between the November of 1814 and 1833 she was laid up at Portsmouth. During this time several large rerpairs were undertaken costing a total of £76.778.


    From the October of 1833 she was recommissioned under the command of Captain James Dacres for service in the Med until 1837.


    In the July of that year she came under the captaincy of William Henderson, who undertook that position until 1841, and who commanded her at the bombardment of Acre in the 3rd of November ,1840.


    In 1841 she continued her operations off the coast of Syria and Lebanon in the Syrian War until her return to England and laying up at Portsmouth in the July of that Year.


    On the 22nd of October,1845 she was taken in hand at Portsmouth Dockyard by Admiralty Orders and converted into a steam-powered screw propulsion 'blockship'. The conversion was completed on 19 August 1852 and cost a total of £ 65.618 In this transformation her displacement was increased to 2,598 tons and her complement of guns reduced to 60 (or 56: reports differ).

    She acted as
    guard ship at Devonport until the February of 1854, when she was assigned to the fleet sent to the Baltic under Sir Charles Napier. She was the flagship of Rear-Admiral Henry Ducie Chads, third in command of the fleet, and took part in the bombardment and capture of the Russian fortress of Bomarsund in the Åland Islands. She returned to the Baltic in 1855. Subsequently she was a guard ship at Sheerness from the August of 1856, and then as coast guard between the March and April of 1858 at Leith.


    Fate.


    She was sold out of the Navy to Castle and Beech for breaking up in the November of 1865 and this was completed at Charlton in 1866.
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    HMS Barham (1811)


    HMS Barham was yet another Peak and Rule Armada Class 74-gun third rate ship of the line ordered on the 2nd of November, 1811, and named after Admiral Charles Middleton the first Baron Barham. Laid down in the June of 1808, she was built by Perry, Wells, and Green at Blackwall yard, and launched on the 8th of July, 1811. She was completed for ordinary at Woolwich in the February of 1812, being fitted for sea at Chatham in the May of that year.


    History
    GREAT BRITAIN
    Name: HMS Barham
    Ordered: 2 November 1807
    Builder: Perry, Wells & Green, Blackwall Yard
    Laid down: June 1808
    Launched: 8 July 1811
    Fate: Rescued in Bonaire 1829, Broken up, 1839
    General characteristics
    Class and type: Armada Class 74 gun ship of the line
    Tons burthen: 1761 (bm)
    Length: 176 ft (54 m) (gundeck)
    Beam: 47 ft 9.5 in (14.49 m)
    Depth of hold: 21 ft 1 in (6.4 m)
    Propulsion: Sails
    Sail plan: Full rigged ship
    Armament: ·74 guns:
    ·Gundeck: 28 × 32-pounders
    ·Upper gundeck: 28 × 18-pounders
    ·Quarterdeck: 4 × 12-pounders, 10 × 32-pounder carronades Forecastle: 2 × 12-pounders, 2 × 32-pounder carronades
    ·Poop deck: 6 × 18-pounder carronades

    Service.


    HMS Barham was commissioned by Captain John Spranger in the February of 1812 for service in the North Sea, although most of her completion and fitting out had been supervised by Captain Thomas Bladen Capel.


    She returned to Woolwich in 1813, and then proceeded to Jamaica in 1814. She was paid off in the July of that year, underwent a small repair, and was then housed over at Woolwich between the March and September of 1815 at a total cost of £22.826.


    In 1826, by Admiralty Orders, Barham was reduced to a Fourth Rate Frigate of 50-guns at a cost of £41,346
    She was recommissioned in the August of that year for service in Jamaica once more. On the 29th of April, 1829 she suffered severe damage when she ran aground off Bonaire. She was refloated on the 30 April, after her crew had to throw 37 cannon overboard to lighten her burden.
    On her return to England in 1830 she underwent a refit at Woolwich for £41,346 between the September of 1830 and the June of 1831 for service in the Med.



    'Barham' is shown quitting Constantinople with Sir Stratford Canning on board between 6 - 12 August 1832.



    HMS Barham at Malta on 25 September 1833.

    Fate.

    She was broken up at Deptford which was completed in the March of 1840
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    HMS Hogue. (1811)


    Hogue

    HMS Hogue was an Armada Class Peak and Rule designed 74-gun third rate ship of the line, ordered on the 1st of October, 1806. She was built by M/shipwright Robert Nelson at Deptford Dockyard. Laid down in the December of 1809, she was launched on the 3rd of October, 1811, and completed on the 25th of January, 1812 at Woolwich.. She was named after the 1692 Battle of La Hogue. At her completion, the Hogue sported a green and chocolate lion as its figurehead, its grinning mouth displaying rows of white teeth and a lolling red tongue."


    Plans for the Hogue

    History
    GREAT BRITAIN
    Name: HMS Hogue
    Ordered: 1 October 1806
    Builder: Deptford Dockyard
    Laid down: April 1808
    Launched: 3 October 1811
    Fate: Broken up, 1865
    General characteristics
    Class and type: Armada class 74 gun third rate ship of the line
    Tons burthen: 1750 (bm)
    Length: 176 ft (54 m) (gundeck)
    Beam: 47 ft 7.5 in (14.48 m)
    Depth of hold: 21 ft 0.5 in (6.4 m)
    Propulsion: Sails
    Sail plan: Full rigged ship
    rmament:
    • 74 guns:
    • Gundeck: 28 × 32-pounder guns
    • Upper gundeck: 28 × 18-pounder guns
    • Quarterdeck: 4 × 12-pounder guns, 10 × 32-pounder carronades
    • Forecastle: 2 × 12-pounder guns, 2 × 32-pounder carronades
    • Poop deck: 6 × 18-pounder carronades

    Service
    .

    HMS Hogue was commissioned by Captain Thomas Bladen Capel in the December of 1811 for service at the Texel.
    Following on from this, on the 14th of January,1813 she sailed for North America for operations in the War of 1812, as the flagship of Commodore William hotham. Whilst under the command of Captain Capel, she successfully trapped the American privateer Young Teazer off the coast off Nova Scotia. Then on the 16th of August, Hogue also captured the Portuguese ship Flor de Mar. At the time of the seizure, HMS Tenedos was in sight and, therefore, shared the prize money.

    Hogue was unfortunately driven ashore at Halifax, Nova Scotia, on the 12th of November in that same year during a severe storm. She was, however, successfully refloated, repaired, and returned to service.

    From 7–8 April 1814, ships' boats of the Hogue, Endymion, Maidstone and Borer attacked Pettipague point.
    In the September of that year, Hogue landed near the Old Scituate Light station with the intent of sending a raiding party into the town. Rebecca and Abigail Bates, the lighthouse keeper's daughters, repulsed the attack by playing a drum and a fife that had been left at the station, thus convincing the raiders that a substantial garrison was in residence..

    On her return to England in the following month Hogue underwent a middling to large repair at Chatham between that date and the June of 1816. This was probably due in some extent to her grounding of the previous year. The total cost of repairs was somewhere in the region of £ 41.500. Following her repair she went into ordinary at Sheerness.

    Returning to Chatham in the November of 1824 she again underwent a middling repair which was completed in the March of 1826.She remained at Chatham until 1834 before returning to Sheerness.

    In 1845 by Admiralty Orders she was converted into a screw guardship, by Wigram of Blackwall between the December of that year and the December of the following year at a cost of £ 36.611.

    In 1847 the Admiralty awarded the Naval General Service Medal with clasp "8 Apr Boat Service 1814" to all surviving claimants from the action. The raid was commanded by Coote, who was promoted as a result of the successful outcome, as was Lieutenant Pyne of the Hogue who assisted him.

    From 1852 she acted as a guard-ship at Devonport under the command of Captain William Ramsay and saw her final service, still under Ramsay, on duties in the Baltic Sea during the Crimean War. On the 18th of September 1855, she ran aground off Renskär, Sweden and was severely damaged. She was refloated with the assistance of three gunboats after her lower deck guns were taken out.

    Fate.

    Between the March and April of 1858 Hogue was fitted for coastguard service at Plymouth for £3,680. She was eventually broken up there in 1865.
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    HMS Duncan (1811)





    HMS Duncan was an Armada Class, 74 gun, third rate ship of the line designed by Peake and Rule, and built by John Dudman at Deptford. She was ordered on the 13th of July, 1807, laid down in the August of 1808, and launched on the 2nd of December,1811 at Deptford Warf. Completion took place between the 13th of that month and the 26th of February,1812.

    History
    GREAT BRITAIN
    Name: HMS Duncan
    Ordered: 13 July 1807
    Builder: Dudman, Deptford
    Laid down: August 1808
    Launched: 2 December 1811
    Fate: Broken up, 1863
    General characteristics
    Class and type: Armada Class 74 gun ship of the line
    Tons burthen: 1761 (bm)
    Length: 176 ft (54 m) (gundeck)
    Beam: 47 ft 9.5 in (14.49 m)
    Depth of hold: 21 ft (6.4 m)
    Propulsion: Sails
    Sail plan: Full rigged ship
    Armament: ·74 guns:
    ·Gundeck: 28 × 32 pdrs
    ·Upper gundeck: 28 × 18 pdrs
    ·Quarterdeck: 4 × 12 pdrs, 10 × 32 pdr carronadesForecastle: 2 × 12 pdrs, 2 × 32 pdr carronades
    ·Poop deck: 6 × 18 pdr carronades
    Service.


    A painting of HMS Duncan, possibly by William Anderson, date unknown, from the Royal Museums Greenwich


    HMS Duncan was commissioned by Captain Robert Plampin in the February of 1812.
    During the period of 1812 to 1814 she served under the command of Captain Robert Lambert in the North Sea. During 1814 she was under Captain Thomas Smith in the Med, until the September of that year when command passed to Captain Samuel Chambers.

    Fate.

    Duncan returned to Portsmouth and was laid up in the June of 1815. She was fitted as a Lazarette there in the July of 1826, and removed to Sheerness in the August of 1831 where she was placed on harbour service in 1834. She next moved to Chatham in February of 1837 and refitted as a Lazarette, then being moved to Stangate creek. In the November of 1861 the Customs Serviced relinquished her use and she returned to the Admiralties control at Chatham.
    She was broken up in 1863. The process being completed on the 5th of October in that year.
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    HMS Asia (1811)


    Asia



    HMS Asia was a Peake and Rule designed Armada Class, 74-gun third rate ship of the line, built by Jusiah and Thomas Brindley at Findsbury. Ordered on the 13th of July 1807, and laid down in the February of 1808, she was launched on the 2nd of December 1811, and completed on the 9th of May 1812 at Chatham.

    History
    GREAT BRITAIN
    Name: HMS Asia
    Ordered: 13 July 1807
    Builder: Brindley, Frindsbury
    Laid down: February 1808
    Launched: 2 December 1811
    Fate: Broken up, 1865
    General characteristics
    Class and type: Armada Class 74 gun ship of the line.
    Tons burthen: 1763 (bm)
    Length: 175 ft 7in (54 m) (gundeck)
    Beam: 47 ft 11 in (14.49 m)
    Depth of hold: 21 ft (6.4 m)
    Propulsion: Sails
    Sail plan: Full rigged ship
    Armament: ·Gundeck: 28 × 32-pounder guns
    ·Upper gundeck: 28 × 18-pounder guns
    ·QD: 4 × 12-pounder guns + 10 × 32-pounder Carronades
    ·Fc: 2 × 12-pounder guns + 2 × 32-pounder Carronades
    ·Poop deck: 6 × 18-pounder Carronades



    Service.


    HMS Asia was commissioned under Captain John Spranger in the February of 1812. In the following month she came under the command of Captain George Scott, but in the August of that year he was superseded by Captain Alexander Shippard.
    On the 22nd of May 1813 she sailed for Jamaica, and on the 26th of July, Asia sailed from Negril as escort to a convoy on a return journey, bound for London.
    Between the November of 1813 and the January of 1814 she underwent the making good of several defects before sailing for North America.

    Asia was off the Chesapeake in the July of that year, having ferried The Royal Marine Artillery company of the 3rd Battalion, Royal Marines from Bermuda to the Chesapeake, During the bombardment of Fort McHenry, Asia was moored off Baltimore, along with Seahorse, Severn and Surprise. Asia was among Admiral Alexanda Cochrane’s fleet moored off New Orleans at the start of 1815. In support of the attack on New Orleans, 107 Royal Marines from Asia were disembarked.

    Following her return to England, Asia was laid up at Chatham in 1816. She was renamed as HMS Alfred in 1819.


    Between the November of 1822 and the August of 1828, Asia underwent a very large repair and was then reduced to a 50-gun forth rate Frigate, at a total cost of £49,219. She was fitted for sea at Chatham between the March and June of 1831, for service in the Med.


    Alfred leaving Malta Harbour 12 January 1833

    On her return to England she was laid up at Sheerness in the July of 1834.
    She was fitted for sea again between the October of 1841 and the February of 1842, and the fitted for a commission in the July of 1845 at Portsmouth. However, she was then laid up there once more.

    Fate.


    In the July of 1858 she was fitted experimentally with iron plates, for trials with a Whitworth gun. Again in between the August and November of 1862 she was fitted for armour trials at Portsmouth. Following this by Admiralty Orders given on the 10th of January,1865 she was broken up, the work being completed on the 8th of May in that year.
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