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Thread: Hebe Frigate Model Question - Probably for Diamondback

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    Default Hebe Frigate Model Question - Probably for Diamondback

    Hey DB,

    This is probably something up your alley to answer. I got a bunch of Hebe class ships today. Looking at the line drawings of this class, I can't figure for the life of me why the models have that funky raised poop deck on the back of them?

    Doesn't seem any of the line drawings I've referenced have that? Is this just poor historic reference when sculpting or am I missing something here? I know you've done a lot of work on comparing the models, so figure you'd be the person best suited to provide some thoughts...but all thoughts welcome!

    I do actually love the look of this ship, just wondering why it doesn't look like its historical counterpart.....

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    If you're referring to the drawing I generally use for reference, that's specifically copy HMS Leda--I suspect that the Brits deleted the poop as part of "Anglicizing" the design. I haven't been able to find any draughts taken off the French-built captures at Greenwich yet.
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    OK, I wonder where Ares got the design for the Hebe - surprising they didn't just make the Leda, given there were only 6 Hebe class frigates built, and 47 Leda's.

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    Ryan, Ares seems to have been working on something like Intel's "Tick-Tock" development cycle, over my protests--despite my lobbying from Day One for both sides to be treated in an evenhanded manner with each release, Ares seems to like giving new Rate/type expansions to the French first and then to the British the next wave. Maybe because that way they can use the French version as a "beta" for debugging and then fix things we find on the British counterpart, knowing some of us will develop custom logs with the adjustments slipstreamed in.

    I suspect they might have drawings of Hebe from a different source--IIRC the hull is pretty close, it's just the poop that's the telling difference. Sort of like how Victory *should* have the stern gallery of SGN108, while most British First Rates should have the gallery of SGN201...
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    Doesn't help that you Brits could PICK a design and STICK with it, while we just had the shipwrights fit planks together as they saw fit and to hell with the nominal "standard design"...
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