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    Ares games has the new wave 3 ships on the homepage:

    http://www.aresgames.eu/17404


    64-Guns Artésien Class Ships-of-the-Line

    http://www.aresgames.eu/games/sails-...ps-of-the-line


    50-Guns Portland Class Fourth Rate

    http://www.aresgames.eu/games/sails-...ss-fourth-rate


    112-Guns Meregildos Class First Rate

    http://www.aresgames.eu/games/sails-...ass-first-rate


    74-Guns Nepomuceno/Bahama Ships-of-the-Line

    http://www.aresgames.eu/games/sails-...ps-of-the-line

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    64-Guns Artésien Class Ships-of-the-Line

    The Artésien class included five French 3rd rate ships of the line, built at Brest to a design of Joseph-Louis Ollivier. They were armed with 64 cannons and had a designed crew of 570-580 men. They were armed with 26 24–Pounder guns in the lower deck, 28 12–Pounder guns in the upperdeck, and 10 6–Pounder guns in the quarterdeck and the forecastle.

    Artesien 1765/Roland1771

    The Artésien was built in 1765 as part of a series of 12 ships of the line built to compensate losses endured by the French Royal Navy during the Seven Years' War. The Artésien took part in the American Revolutionary War, departing in 1781. A fine 1/28th scale model of the ship was used to instruct Louis XVI in naval studies and is now on display at the Musée de la Marine.

    This ship pack can also be used to represent the French Artésien Class ship-of-the-line “Roland 1771.”
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    64-Guns Artésien Class Ships-of-the-Line

    Protée was built in 1772 and designated as flagship of a convoy directed to India, departing with other ships as escort, transporting troops and ammunition. On 23 February, off Spain, the convoy met Rodney's fleet; Duchilleau, commander in charge, tried to lure the British by continuing on the same bearing, while the convoy escaped, escorted by the other ships. The British fleet chased and captured Protée.

    This ship pack can also be used to represent the French Artésien Class ship-of-the-line “Eveillé 1772.”
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    After being captured off the coast of Spain by Lord Robert Manners, the Protée was commissioned in the Royal Navy as the third rate HMS Prothee. She was converted to serve as a prison ship in 1799, and broken up in 1815. Eight of her small cannons were purchased by John Manners, 5th Duke of Rutland and are currently at Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire. The cannons are still fired on special occasions, such as weddings and the Duke's birthday.

    This ship pack can also be used to represent the British Caton Class ship-of-the-line “HMS Argonaut 1782.”
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    50-Guns Portland Class Fourth Rate

    The Portland class was a class of British 4th rate ships, armed with 50 cannons and with a designed crew of 350 men. They were armed with 22 24–Pounder guns in the lower deck, 22 12–Pounder guns in the upperdeck, 4 6–Pounder guns in the quarterdeck, and 2 6–Pounder guns in the forecastle.

    HMS Leander, launched at Chatham on 1 July 1780, served on the west coast of Africa, West Indies, and the Halifax station. During the French Revolutionary Wars, HMS Leander participated in the Battle of the Nile and was captured by French, then captured again by Russians and Turks. On 25 April 1805 cannon fire from Leander killed an American seaman with the resulting “Leander Affair” that contributed to the worsening of relations between the USA and Great Britain. In 1813 Leander was converted to a hospital ship under the name Hygeia.



    This ship pack can also be used to represent the British Portland Class “HMS Adamant 1780.”
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    50-Guns Portland Class Fourth Rate

    HMS Leopard saw service during the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars, and was active in Europe, East Indies and Egypt. In 1807, a group of British sailors – some of American birth – deserted and joined the crew of USS Chesapeake. Captain Humphreys, commanding Leopard, requested permission to search for the deserters. Chesapeake’s captain refused, and Leopard opened fire, capturing the American ship. Humphreys took back four deserters and hanged the British–born ones. This incident was one of several episodes that increased the tension between the British Empire and the United States, finally exploding in the War of 1812.

    This ship pack can also be used to represent the British Portland Class “HMS Isis 1790.”
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    50-Guns Portland Class Fourth Rate

    Petit Annibal was originally a British ship, the HMS Hannibal, built by Adams of Bucklers Hard and launched on 26 December 1779. She was subsequently captured by the French ship Héros off the coast of Sumatra, in 1782. She was called Petit Annibal to distinguish her from the eponymous 74–gun Annibal, which was in the same fleet. Admiral Bailli de Suffren took her into his fleet, and she saw service in his five battles against British Admiral Sir Edward Hughes in 1782 and 1783. She was decommissioned in 1787 and used as a hulk from 1792.



    This ship pack can also be used to represent the French Portland Class “Leander 1798.”
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    112-Guns Meregildos Class First Rate

    The “Meregildos” were Spanish 1st-rate ships of the line, armed with 112 cannons and with a designed crew of about 1100. They were armed with 30 36–Pounder guns in the lower deck, 32 24–Pounder guns in the middle deck, 32 12–Pounder guns in the upperdeck, and 18 8–Pounder guns in the quarterdeck and the forecastle.

    Santa Ana was a 112–gun three–decker ship of the line of the Spanish Navy, designed by Romero Landa. This ship was launched on 28 September 1784 and, after a positive test, became the first of her class. Subsequent Spanish three–deckers would be built following the same plans. At Trafalgar, Santa Ana was the flagship of Alava, suffering 97 killed and 141 wounded, with Alava himself seriously wounded. Initially captured by the British, a squadron succeeded in recapturing her two days later and returning her back to Cadiz. In 1810 she was captured again in Avana by the French and sank in its Arsenal in 1816.

    This ship pack can also be used to represent the Spanish Meregildos class “Mejicano 1786.”
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    112-Guns Meregildos Class First Rate

    Real Carlos was a 112–gun three–decker ship of the line, built following plans by Romero Landa for Santa Ana. She served in the Spanish Navy during the French Revolutionary Wars, but was destroyed during the Second Battle of Algeciras, with the loss of many of its crew. After participating in the capture of San Pietro Island for Spain and Sant'Antioco for France, in July 1801, she was in Algericas battling against the British fleet. The HMS Superb, cutting through the rearguard, maneuvered between Real Carlos and San Hermenegildo. When the Spanish ships opened fire, they struck each other and then collided, with fire spreading out of control. Both exploded and more than 1700 men were killed in the blast.



    This ship pack can also be used to represent the Spanish Meregildos class “Conde de Regla 1786.”
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    112-Guns Meregildos Class First Rate

    The Príncipe de Asturias was another of the Spanish three–deck 112–gun ship of the line, based on the Santa Ana design by Romero Landa. She fought with a British squadron on 14 February 1797 in the Battle of Cape St Vincent, with 10 killed and 19 wounded. At Trafalgar, the ship suffered 50 killed and 110 wounded. After the battle, she had to be towed by the French frigate Thémis and undergo major repairs in Cadiz. She returned to fight in the Peninsular War, capturing many French ships. She crossed the Atlantic to Havana with Santa Ana to avoid capture by the French. In 1814 she struck a rock and was scrapped three years later.

    This ship pack can also be used to represent the Spanish Meregildos class “San Hermenegildo 1789.”
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    74-Guns Nepomuceno/Bahama Ships-of-the-Line

    he Nepomuceno Class of the Spanish Navy included ships of the line with 74 cannons and a designed crew of about 530. They were armed with 28 24–Pounder guns in the lower deck, 30 18–Pounder guns in the upperdeck, 8 12–Pounder guns in the quarterdeck, and 8 8–Pounder guns in the forecastle.

    The San Juan Nepomuceno was a Spanish ship of the line built in 1765 in Guarnizo in Cantabria, on design of Francisco Gautier, along with other similar ships. She was used for many years for many different missions, many of them in the Caribbean. In 1793 she fought against Revolutionary France, especially in the occupation of Toulon. In the Battle of Trafalgar, she achieved glory under commander Don Cosme Damian Churruca and provided an incredible example of Spanish heroism, fighting British ships after the loss of over 400 officers and crewmen. Ultimately, she was captured and renamed by the Royal Navy.

    This ship pack can also be used to represent the Spanish Nepomuceno class “San Francisco de Asis 1767.”
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    74-Guns Nepomuceno/Bahama Ships-of-the-Line

    The San Agustín was a 74–gun ship of the line built at the royal shipyard in Guarnizo (Santander) in 1768 by Francisco Gautier. After fighting during the American War of Independence and in the Battle of Cape St. Vincent (1780), she took part of the Napoleonic wars, where she fought at the Battle of Algeciras in 1801 and the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805. In Trafalgar, under the command of Felipe Jado and Cagigal with 711 men aboard, she was surrounded by several ships of Nelson’s squadron. They fought for hours, but after the third approach, she was after being dismasted and with 180 dead and 200 wounded, the British offered terms to surrender. The ship was burned on October 29.

    This ship pack can also be used to represent the Spanish 74-gun ship-of-the-line class “Bahama 1780.”
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    74-Guns Nepomuceno/Bahama Ships-of-the-Line

    The Bahama was a Spanish ship of the line, built in Havana in 1780. Originally designed as 64–gun by Ignacio Mullan, she left Havana for Cadiz on 1785. Here she was rebuilt and completed as a 74–gun, following the project of Francisco Gautier, the designer of Nepomuceno class. As a 74–gun ship of the line, she was armed with 74 cannons and a designed crew of 640. They were armed with 28 32–Pounder guns in the lower deck, 30 18–Pounder guns in the upperdeck, 8 32–Pounder guns and 6 12–Pounder guns in the quarterdeck, and 2 12–Pounder guns in the forecastle.

    The ship was part of the Spanish fleet that participated in the Battle of Trafalgar, where she was hit by the intense fire of British ships, with 75 killed and 65 wounded. Her commander, Commodore Galiano, died after being struck by a cannonball. After capture by the British fleet, Bahama became HMS Bahama, following repairs in Gibraltar. She sailed to England and was used as a prison ship.

    This ship pack can also be used to represent the Spanish Nepomuceno class “HMS San Juan 1805.”
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    Yessssss! I'll have two of each, please!! Now we only need to see them in our stores ...

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    I was just trying to work out how much this will cost with two of each and a couple I need for repaints.
    The money coming in from what I laid out for the Sweat Shirts should just about cover it in case they arrive after Christmas as would appear very likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    I was just trying to work out how much this will cost with two of each and a couple I need for repaints.
    The money coming in from what I laid out for the Sweat Shirts should just about cover it in case they arrive after Christmas as would appear very likely.
    Rob.
    Sadly, I will just have to bite the bullet to ensure I get all of them before they disappear. My wife's Basque heritage DICTATES my shelling out for at least the Spanish ships!!

    Sweatshirts?

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    I plan a humbel start with:

    2x Artésien Class (French/British)
    2x 50-Guns Portland Class Fourth Rate (French/British)
    1x 112-Guns Meregildos Class First Rate (Príncipe de Asturias)
    2x 74-Guns Nepomuceno/Bahama Ships-of-the-Line (Spanish/British)

    This will be my October budget...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWBell View Post
    Sadly, I will just have to bite the bullet to ensure I get all of them before they disappear. My wife's Basque heritage DICTATES my shelling out for at least the Spanish ships!!

    Sweatshirts?
    Her wish is your command, Michael.

    For the sweatshirts: Rob equipped the British UK captains with SoG shirts. Paying the whole bill by himself and gets the money from the captains now back, I think.

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    The French Artésien Class Protée has a nice flag: White with yellow fleur-de-lis.

    The 74-Guns Nepomuceno/Bahama Ships-of-the-Line San Augustin has a nice white Bourbon flag, too.


    The new ships look very nice and will upgrade the view of my battle lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWBell View Post

    Sweatshirts?
    You can see the ones I bought for the UK Fleet here Michael.

    http://sailsofglory.org/showthread.php?4175-Polo-Shirts

    I am now getting the last of the money back from my shipmates who ordered one. That will free up over £200 for the new ships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comte de Brueys View Post
    The French Artésien Class Protée has a nice flag: White with yellow fleur-de-lis.

    The 74-Guns Nepomuceno/Bahama Ships-of-the-Line San Augustin has a nice white Bourbon flag, too.


    The new ships look very nice and will upgrade the view of my battle lines.
    I wonder if they intend to redo the plain white flags on the 1st and 2nd wave Bourbon ships (if they are still producing them)?

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    With these new ships, pre-Revolutionary French battles are definitely becoming more likely. Also, this simplifies carronade use, as it predates it! Now, which of the 1st and 2nd wave frigates can be used for the Continental navy's frigates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comte de Brueys View Post
    Her wish is your command, Michael.
    In all fairness, you can never have too many 74's ... AND I've been anxiously awaiting some 50's and 64's ... so I guess I'm also taking advantage of her "command" (lol)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    You can see the ones I bought for the UK Fleet here Michael.

    http://sailsofglory.org/showthread.php?4175-Polo-Shirts

    I am now getting the last of the money back from my shipmates who ordered one. That will free up over £200 for the new ships.
    Rob.
    And that's as it SHOULD be, Rob. Let the hobby pay for the hobby! Not to mention the free advertising the sweatshirts might provide to further promote it!!

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    I intend to get two of each of this wave, funds and work permitting, plus an extra Portland for a repaint I have in mind.

    Ok when we starting the thread for Wave 4

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    I am not going to say anything about wave four until I have an armful of wave three ships Chris.
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    I'm curious for the performance of the Spanish ships.

    Especially the HMS Bahama will enrich my RN fleet.

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    It will certainly enrich the small Squadron encounters Sven. Just imagine it up against a couple of medium sized Frigates.
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    ... and speaking of Frigates, my wife touched base with ARES yesterday to inquire about the possibility of any new Spanish frigates to further fill out her squadron and was immediately assured that a couple were set to arrive in the next Wave! So, Chris, it looks as though Wave 4 is already in the works!!

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    Now that sounds good to me, hopefuly though we will not be waiting as long for that wave once three is released, I hope not, but with the other ranges being published I can see this will be a while down the road

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    Spanish frigates - sounds intersting.

    As long as I get my French "Tonnant" & "Bucentaure" with the next wave.

    (Tonnant would be a perfect SoG miniature, because she fought at Abukir and later at Trafalgar under British command!)

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    Spanish Frigates will sort out all my needs for the time being. Just a Santisima to go then.
    Tonnant fills a double hole in Sven. I hope that all the work that DB is putting in on this will bear fruit too.
    Rob.

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    The forth wave's ships are already mentioned here on the Anchorage.

    British 64
    Spanish Mahonesa 34
    French Tonnant 80
    French Groignard 900-ton EIM

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    Well remembered!
    Just found a post by DB on this Jonas.
    The only variation from what you say seems to be that he includes American G 900 mod Bonhomme Richard.
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    There will of course be two of one nationality and one of another, all double sided except that last one.

    Bonhomme Richard is the actual ship the French Merchant is modeled after, ie it's not that perfect as an EIM.

    Well, Rob... The Tonnant was announced not that long after I made my conversions. It kind of stuck in my mind...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWBell View Post
    ... and speaking of Frigates, my wife touched base with ARES yesterday to inquire about the possibility of any new Spanish frigates to further fill out her squadron and was immediately assured that a couple were set to arrive in the next Wave! So, Chris, it looks as though Wave 4 is already in the works!!
    Yes, Michael, Wave 4 has already had sculpts and ships selected--WE as a community designed it with a little assistance from myself and a couple others, filling out the Spanish, adding two French and British no-brainers, introducing Indiamen/merchants and another icon of American naval history. :)

    So if we want Ares to take us seriously as "collaborative partners" rather than just customers and let us keep the seat at the table I've worked hard to get for us, we need to make sure Wave 4 posts really good sales. :)

    As for BHR... well, reconverting her to an EIM will take a little nuisance fine detail work, but it's nowhere near as bad as a razee. :) Just a matter of cutting the bulwarks down, reducing the quarterdeck to abaft the mizzenmast, and splicing in a mizzen extension the same height as the QD, maybe sand/file off some guns. Still not a cut I'd be able to make myself, but... not super difficult either.

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    Reducing the quarterdeck is a lot of hard work. It's almost easier to make a razee...

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    Well work permitting Ill take all of wave 4... Including the BHR :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capn Duff View Post
    Now that sounds good to me, hopefuly though we will not be waiting as long for that wave once three is released, I hope not, but with the other ranges being published I can see this will be a while down the road
    At least we can see the light at the end of the tunnel ... and we get a little time to save up for the next batch!

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    [QUOTE=Diamondback;64903]Yes, Michael, Wave 4 has already had sculpts and ships selected--WE as a community designed it with a little assistance from myself and a couple others, filling out the Spanish, adding two French and British no-brainers, introducing Indiamen/merchants and another icon of American naval history. :)

    So if we want Ares to take us seriously as "collaborative partners" rather than just customers and let us keep the seat at the table I've worked hard to get for us, we need to make sure Wave 4 posts really good sales. :)

    I hope my bride's inquiry wasn't impertinent ... she was merely curious. She hasn't even received her new Spanish squadron yet and is looking to fill it out even more! We certainly do not mean to disrupt any progress you are making in getting ships launched.

    As far as good sales are concerned, to paraphrase a line from a movie I saw long ago, "if they build it, we will come!"

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    Have they ever done Santisima Trinidad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomrcast View Post
    Have they ever done Santisima Trinidad?
    Planned for a Special Pack eventually--there's only one other ship the ST could pass for, a scaled-down copy built by the Russians.

    Quote Originally Posted by MWBell View Post
    I hope my bride's inquiry wasn't impertinent ... she was merely curious. She hasn't even received her new Spanish squadron yet and is looking to fill it out even more! We certainly do not mean to disrupt any progress you are making in getting ships launched.

    As far as good sales are concerned, to paraphrase a line from a movie I saw long ago, "if they build it, we will come!"
    I can't speak for Rob & Co., but I for one think such inquiries help keep the encouragement on them. :) (I'm just part of the research team, and an unpaid part at that even if I do give them the same quality of work as my paying clients--though if they opened a full-time spot for me I would gladly give up my freelancing practice, as long as I had sufficient time to finish my existing bookings and help my clients line up replacements to take over for me.)

    No disruption at all--slow sales would cause more of that than anything.:)

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    Tremendous. I will look forward to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capn Duff View Post
    Well work permitting Ill take all of wave 4... Including the BHR :)

    Likewise Chris.
    Some Second Rates and the Trinidad after that and I would be satisfied until the Dutch came out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    Likewise Chris.
    Some Second Rates and the Trinidad after that and I would be satisfied until the Dutch came out.
    Rob.
    Well, maybe add a Montanes/Ildefonsino and a late-era Large or Middling 74. :) Perhaps some Heavy Frigates and maybe a little more trickle to fill out the USN... but let's make sure we keep seeing steady progress, both new sculpts and regular reprints, on filling out the Trafalgar roster too. :D Always a good idea to have more goals teed up to replace the ones you check off...

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    Well, yes now you mention it DB. I'd never turn down any chance to add a few more varieties.
    Just that the ones I mentioned would give me a working nucleus. I would eventually like every line ship that sailed in the conflict, but I don't think I will live that long.
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    I like the sound of the Montanes sculpt and of course the Santissima.......... Then a Mars and of course the fighting Temeraire and..... Sorry got carried away :) my hope is to get all for Trafalgar before I loose any faculties :)

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    I know exactly what you mean Chris.
    I live in that hope myself.
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