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[Diamondback]

IF Ares ultimate goal is to have all of the major ships from the Battle of Trafalgar represented in their line up then you most certainly will have to include the Santisima Trinidad. Whether that's going to be a one of kind release like HMS Victory of a loose interpretation of a Spanish First Rate remains to be seen.

I definitely want to see the ST and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. I've already kit bashed a French First Rate to fill that gap and I'm sure I could manage doing the same with a Spanish First Rate once they're available? After all the ST didn't start out as a 4 deck ship, it was modified from a 3 decker (the opposite of a razee if there is such a thing?).

Jim, my understanding is ST would have to be a Special, and we've discussed it as such.

Bonhomme Richard was enough of a b**ch to do, even with close relatives... and as it is, all of them but BHR herself will be "kitbasher dreams" because you'll have to cut down the bulwarks, reduce the length of the quarterdeck and splice a quarterdeck-height extension into the mizzenmast. A job which I shall gladly sub-contract... :)

As for Trafalgar -
We really need:
--SP Montanes 80
--SP Santissima Trinidad 136
--assorted British and French brigs, cutters, schooners etc.
Those sculpts, and we have bare-minimum "representational" coverage.

I personally would be more comfortable if we added:
--One sculpt for British Second Rates
--At least one sculpt for British Large 74s/80s
--a new sculpt for the Spanish Rayos, preferably tooled as both 2-deck and 3-deck versions

And my own "minimum preference" would further add:
--a second Second Rate, one sculpt each "early" and "late"
--a British Middling 74, allocating the sculpts into the Slade/older forms on SGN104, Henslow's designs and contemporaries on either Large or Middling and the captured Courageux and her descendants the other
--a Spanish Ildefonso 74 (the existing sculpt is an "early" 74, this would be a "late")
--a second British 64 sculpt (one is coming in Wave 4, but we have a split between the French-derived Ardents like Agamemnon or a "traditional British" and I'd like a sculpt for each)

And then a metric sh*tload of reprints all around... by my count we have 24 reprints on existing sculpts plus 42 ships on new sculpts to complete the OrBat.

[Nightmoss]

Jim, my understanding is ST would have to be a Special, and we've discussed it as such.

Bonhomme Richard was enough of a b**ch to do, even with close relatives... and as it is, all of them but BHR herself will be "kitbasher dreams" because you'll have to cut down the bulwarks, reduce the length of the quarterdeck and splice a quarterdeck-height extension into the mizzenmast. A job which I shall gladly sub-contract... :)

As for Trafalgar -
We really need:
--SP Montanes 80
--SP Santissima Trinidad 136
--assorted British and French brigs, cutters, schooners etc.
Those sculpts, and we have bare-minimum "representational" coverage.

I personally would be more comfortable if we added:
--One sculpt for British Second Rates
--At least one sculpt for British Large 74s/80s
--a new sculpt for the Spanish Rayos, preferably tooled as both 2-deck and 3-deck versions

And my own "minimum preference" would further add:
--a second Second Rate, one sculpt each "early" and "late"
--a British Middling 74, allocating the sculpts into the Slade/older forms on SGN104, Henslow's designs and contemporaries on either Large or Middling and the captured Courageux and her descendants the other
--a Spanish Ildefonso 74 (the existing sculpt is an "early" 74, this would be a "late")
--a second British 64 sculpt (one is coming in Wave 4, but we have a split between the French-derived Ardents like Agamemnon or a "traditional British" and I'd like a sculpt for each)

And then a metric sh*tload of reprints all around... by my count we have 24 reprints on existing sculpts plus 42 ships on new sculpts to complete the OrBat.

Thanks for the response, DB.

Yes, I hope at some point Ares will be able to do the ST special, but I do wonder if there's enough 'economic' incentive for them to do so? SoG probably isn't a big money maker for them as it is very much a niche game. So unless they see profit I don't see the ST happening. As we've discussed I still think a Kickstarter project for a couple of 'special' ships might be the way to go?

I like your Trafalgar summation. I've taken a break from modeling, but most, if not all, of the ships you mention are ones I've picked up from Langton's with the intent to bring them to the table sometime? I would like to do the same with SoG sculpts too, eventually.