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    Looks as if we have at least another two weeks to wait for our fix here in the U.K. Eric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eat51 View Post
    Ships or no ships, I just received my new large WWI WoG bombers. They are rather lovely, though I thought the Staaken would be a lighter shade of blue based on the pictures.
    Ah well, a simple repaint should suffice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eat51 View Post
    Ships or no ships, I just received my new large WWI WoG bombers. They are rather lovely, though I thought the Staaken would be a lighter shade of blue based on the pictures.
    That was my expectation about the Staaken, too, but honestly I find the darker blue much preferable to the blue I thought it was going to be. Looks ominous and impressive on the table, an instant centerpiece to my collection.

    I will eagerly snap up any Spanish ships they see fit to produce and am hoping for a Santisima Trinidad at some point.

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    Any pictures of the said Staaken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfimp View Post
    That was my expectation about the Staaken, too, but honestly I find the darker blue much preferable to the blue I thought it was going to be. Looks ominous and impressive on the table, an instant centerpiece to my collection.
    I was thinking the light blue would pop on the table at the store - same reason I chose the red engines on the HP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkybird View Post
    Any pictures of the said Staaken?
    Here's mine, along with the Handley Page O/400 and some other planes for scale. Apologies for the indoor lighting - was late at night and I was just excited to get a photo of it.







    And this one sums up what I mean about "table presence":

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    Woooo! thats a mean looking bird, especially next to the Gothas! Thanks for the great pictures!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkybird View Post
    Woooo! thats a mean looking bird, especially next to the Gothas! Thanks for the great pictures!
    Glad you enjoyed them. It has no fewer than 7 crew (including 2 pilots), 5 machine guns and 34 hit points - it's quite the beast! You've even got mechanic/gunners that can repair a damaged engine. The now mundane-by-comparison 27 HP Gotha was always a handful to bring down, but this.. this is "next level" as they say.

    I wasn't at all surprised to learn that they never managed to shoot one down in real life, and in fact had to train pilots to get close enough before firing. Turns out they hadn't realized how big it was, and started firing from much too far away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eat51 View Post
    I was thinking the light blue would pop on the table at the store - same reason I chose the red engines on the HP.
    That was a good choice - I like my O/400 but it's a bit... drab?

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfimp View Post
    That was a good choice - I like my O/400 but it's a bit... drab?
    Of course, its a weapon of war, not a frikkin' carnival

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfimp View Post
    Glad you enjoyed them. It has no fewer than 7 crew (including 2 pilots), 5 machine guns and 34 hit points - it's quite the beast! You've even got mechanic/gunners that can repair a damaged engine. The now mundane-by-comparison 27 HP Gotha was always a handful to bring down, but this.. this is "next level" as they say.

    I wasn't at all surprised to learn that they never managed to shoot one down in real life, and in fact had to train pilots to get close enough before firing. Turns out they hadn't realized how big it was, and started firing from much too far away.
    I never realised it was the Kaiser's 'Death Star'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmoss View Post
    Wouldn't it be nice to see at least a 3D drawing of the Spanish First Rate? I cannot wait to see the Spanish additions.
    It would, I suspect it will share a hull with the Trinidad which would be released as a special ship later.
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    The Trinidad is a lot heavier, but if they add a piece to the hull to close the waist into a 4th gun deck it might work.
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    That is a real floating fortress if ever I saw one. Just what we need to set the seal on our Spanish Fleet when it materializes.
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    agree, a first rate Spanish ship is needed to deploy a Spanish squadron without French help! Much needed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkybird View Post
    agree, a first rate Spanish ship is needed to deploy a Spanish squadron without French help! Much needed!
    That is the Santa Ana, one of the 112 gun class that will be out in Wave 3. The Santisma Trinidad also started as a 112 gun ship before the expansion to merge the quarter deck and forecastle into a 4th gun deck. I suspect for the Trinidad they could use the same hull and then add the 4th deck pieces to the top. It was how they did it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneEnginee View Post
    That is the Santa Ana, one of the 112 gun class that will be out in Wave 3. The Santisma Trinidad also started as a 112 gun ship before the expansion to merge the quarter deck and forecastle into a 4th gun deck. I suspect for the Trinidad they could use the same hull and then add the 4th deck pieces to the top. It was how they did it!
    Maybe we could do that ourselves when we get the Santa Ana and forestall them.
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    I am glad for the Santa Ana, its not as well known as the Santissima Trinidad, so we might get 2 versions out of her!

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    With a conversion to Santissima as well that could be three biggies then.
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    And then, when they bring out the real Santissima model, will I be the only one buying it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkybird View Post
    And then, when they bring out the real Santissima model, will I be the only one buying it?
    Unlikely.......

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    I suspect so too, I doubt many of us are keen and capable enough for such conversion work. I myself see little point in my risking messing up a perfectly good warship to make a model we are assured is being released in a years time! I don't get enough games to warrant it!

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    I have a lovely one in 1/1200 already, I can wait for a 1/1000 example :)

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    I will buy it anyway because the real thing is always a draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    Unlikely.......
    I can't resist asking. . . .unlikely that Ares will be releasing the ST, or unlikely that you would purchase it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkybird View Post
    I am glad for the Santa Ana, its not as well known as the Santissima Trinidad, so we might get 2 versions out of her!
    While I knew something of the Santisima Trinidad prior to joining up here I learned much more through the comments and links shared by our members. Santa Ana has become a favorite of mine not only because of how she fought at Trafalgar against HMS Royal Sovereign, but because she was captured and then recaptured by the Spanish and taken back to Cadiz.

    Some wonderful paintings of Spanish First Rates and other Age of Sail ships here:

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    I don't have inside info that Santa Ana is one of the named ships, but she is the first and most famous of the los Meregildos 112 gunners mentioned as Wave 3. She was Alava's flagship at Trafalgar.

    There are 8 ships in the Santa Ana class, including Mejicano, Conde de Regla, Salvador del Mundo, Real Carlos, San Hermenegildo, Reina María Luisa and Príncipe de Asturias so they could make 4 double sided packs out of that mold. And Santa Ana is not one of the two that sank each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmoss View Post
    I can't resist asking. . . .unlikely that Ares will be releasing the ST, or unlikely that you would purchase it?
    Unlikely that Herkybird will be the only person buying it

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    Well that could lead a little excitement to the whole Spanish question AB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkybird View Post
    I suspect so too, I doubt many of us are keen and capable enough for such conversion work. I myself see little point in my risking messing up a perfectly good warship to make a model we are assured is being released in a years time! I don't get enough games to warrant it!
    You know something I don't! What assurances do we have?

    I have so far thought Santissima Trinidad to be nothing more than wishes and hopes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    Unlikely that Herkybird will be the only person buying it
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    I won't hold my breath for the S.T. I was told way, way back by Ares that Russians will be coming hopefully by 2016. I don't have the lung capacity to hold my breath much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
    I won't hold my breath for the S.T. I was told way, way back by Ares that Russians will be coming hopefully by 2016. I don't have the lung capacity to hold my breath much longer.
    Really? I've never heard Ares mention Russians.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    Really? I've never heard Ares mention Russians.......
    This was their reply to an email I sent.

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    Well that's news to me as well.
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    I am surprised, I honestly do not think a lot of people would be rushin' to buy them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkybird View Post
    I am surprised, I honestly do not think a lot of people would be rushin' to buy them!
    That may well depend on what colour of Green they are painted Rich.
    Nice pun there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
    I was told way, way back by Ares that Russians will be coming hopefully by 2016.
    Oh! That would be great! That would probably mean they would do Turks and then Swedes. I would love to fight the Baltic battles. Even though I'm younger than many of you I'm not sure I would live long enough to see the day though.

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    I would like something different too, really, it would make doing a campaign easier!...or at least more interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkybird View Post
    I am surprised, I honestly do not think a lot of people would be rushin' to buy them!
    I can't imagine Ares "slav-ing" away on the Russians before the Spanish have a fleet comparable to the English and French!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexaS View Post
    Oh! That would be great! That would probably mean they would do Turks and then Swedes. I would love to fight the Baltic battles. Even though I'm younger than many of you I'm not sure I would live long enough to see the day though.
    If Ares does follow up, the Russians will open the door for the Swedes and Turks. The Turks should open the door for Med pirates/privateers, which would give the Americans someone else to fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    That may well depend on what colour of Green they are painted Rich.
    Nice pun there!
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    If they do, I won't argue with black and white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfimp View Post
    I imagine after that encounter she had a...

    [sunglasses]

    ...SPLITTING HADDOCK.

    B)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneEnginee View Post
    I don't have inside info that Santa Ana is one of the named ships, but she is the first and most famous of the los Meregildos 112 gunners mentioned as Wave 3. She was Alava's flagship at Trafalgar.

    There are 8 ships in the Santa Ana class, including Mejicano, Conde de Regla, Salvador del Mundo, Real Carlos, San Hermenegildo, Reina María Luisa and Príncipe de Asturias so they could make 4 double sided packs out of that mold. And Santa Ana is not one of the two that sank each other.
    More like an even dozen, actually...

    As for the Russians, frigates might be some doing but SOL's they can get off easy by just reprinting SGN108 as the Ches'mas and SGN104 as the Triokh Sviatiteleis (near-copy of 1798 Ajax, basically a Bellona on steroids and with bigger UD guns).

    *tosses fart-jar at French*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobbs View Post
    I can't imagine Ares "slav-ing" away on the Russians before the Spanish have a fleet comparable to the English and French!
    I too hope we get a Santisima Trinidad first; as they say, only fools Russian!

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    Sadly our local game shops have all stopped carrying WOG and SOG, so no local sales point nor place to play the games, : ( Good thing many of us are into solo games and collecting . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipper1701 View Post
    Sadly our local game shops have all stopped carrying WOG and SOG, so no local sales point nor place to play the games, : ( Good thing many of us are into solo games and collecting . . .
    You'll have to get those Elves back into action David. Sorry to hear about the drop in interest in your area which is similar to my local area and many others from what I hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmmdre View Post
    You'll have to get those Elves back into action David. Sorry to hear about the drop in interest in your area which is similar to my local area and many others from what I hear.
    With the lack of any updates or information (let alone new ships) from Ares for long periods of time, it's no wonder.
    vague information from time to time doesn't help to keep interest up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
    With the lack of any updates or information (let alone new ships) from Ares for long periods of time, it's no wonder.
    vague information from time to time doesn't help to keep interest up
    Agreed. Fans of a game alone are not sufficient to provide accurate information or consistently promote a product to the general gaming public. Those jobs ultimatley are the responsibility of the publisher.
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    I appear to have begun the Pun-nic wars again, with not a Carthaginian in sight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipper1701 View Post
    Sadly our local game shops have all stopped carrying WOG and SOG, so no local sales point nor place to play the games, : ( Good thing many of us are into solo games and collecting . . .
    FWIW, I live in a smallish town on the California coast (where wargaming is most decidedly a very niche thing) and we've never had SoG carried in one of the two local comic book / sorta game stores. Despite that I was still able to find, through the magic of the internet, like-minded people in town to play WoG / SoG and plenty of other games with. I suspect that if you were to checkout Meetup.com or a similar type of service, you might find there's more interest than you realize?

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