Razée?

[Gunner]

Lutfisk.

Thanks Eric, but that's a good reason not to raid Swedish coastal towns

[TexaS]

When in Kingsburg, California my brother bought a button saying "Lutfisk, just say no!" but lutfisk is nothing compared to surströmming.

There're videos on youtube where foreigners try to eat surströmming where most end up throwing up when the can is opened, way before even trying to eat it.

[csadn]

When in Kingsburg, California my brother bought a button saying "Lutfisk, just say no!" but lutfisk is nothing compared to surströmming.

Surströmming: Finnish for "zombie shark"....

[TexaS]

Sour herring, or rather fermented herring...

[Redcoat]

A work really hard, It has been pretty good, congratulations!

[Mycenius]

Sour herring, or rather fermented herring...

Never mention the Surströmming ever again!



And I though canned Pilchards were bad...!!

[Comte de Brueys]

Impressive construction work, Jonas.

I'm not shure if I would do this to one of my ships.

[Volunteer]

This hack was extremely enjoyable. She turned out very nice. Perhaps a bandsaw or scroll saw would make quicker and cleaner work of the next one?

[7eat51]

lutfisk is nothing compared to surströmming

Now, I am on a mission.

[TexaS]

The mix of outer and inner plastic in the openings of the gunports and myself not thinking about the thickness of the bottom made it much messier than it could have been. Though there's a tool to the dremel that's like a small circle saw. I could have used that between two drilled holes in the ends at least.

I had no idea how the ships looked inside and if I'd studied it carefully I could have realized that the guns are not parts of the same piece of plastic that's painted in, but actually the bottom and the deck sticking out through the sides.

And thank you for your kind words!

[TexaS]

...of the next one?

I'll have to think about that...

It was probably about four hour work and perhaps another hour with photos. More than I thought it would be, but I should have known it.

[Gunner]

Look at the bright side Jonas. This ship made you a midshipman. Congratulations on your promotion.

[TexaS]

Thank you, captain!

I guess that is number of posts?

I've noted there's something called reputation I get notifications of, what's that?

[7eat51]

At the bottom of a post is a star icon. You can click on that and give someone reputation points when you think they contributed something "special", e.g. the work you did here, an AAR you especially liked, a comment that made you laugh a lot just when you needed it, etc. Reputation is symbolized by the green bars below the flag, and the weight when giving is determined by the amount the giver has, the time on site, etc.

Rank is based on the number of posts.

[TexaS]

Aha! Thank you.

I see I can report my own posts...

[Jason]

I am impressed :) Your razee tourned out great!

[csadn]

So he went on a successful...

[sunglasses]

...RAZEE-A.

B)

[TexaS]

Anyone know anything about HMS Atlas?

Would this be to much work for something that won't be anything like the historical ship anyway, or would it be at least vaguely close?

[Diamondback]

Atlas was a Duke-class, while the sculpt you're proposing to cut down is basically HMS Victory.

This draught is Slade's design for Victory as originally built:


This draught for Atlas and Glory supposedly has the cut-down plan penciled in so you can see Before & After, but I can't see it--can someone with a better eye and some graphics capability maybe highlight that?

[Naharaht]

That was a great piece of modelling, Jonas!

[Coog]

One of the best conversions I've seen. Great work.

[TexaS]

Thank you!

And Coog, that is high praise indeed here, where Nightmoss have shown that about anything is possible.

Diamondback: I know it's the wrong class, and even the wrong rate, but apart from 3D printing I don't see any other way of getting a 98 gun duke-class to cut down. It's even worse than the stretches Ares are doing, but I guess they wont be doing any British second rates and then that is whats available.

[Diamondback]

I'm trying to lean on them to cut two additional three-decker sculpts to fill out Trafalgar, London and Dreadnought--if we get one of those I'd suggest it as a "donor". Probably the London would be a better fit for your purposes if we get it... London is around 1760s-70s, Duke is 1770s and the Dreads are 1797.

[TexaS]

That'd be great. I've only been dreaming of a 98 sculpt for the scale. It's just a pity it will be so long before I cold buy them.
The decision to go with their own scale makes the need for a more complete line bigger.

[John Paul]

Positively outstanding work Jonas! you obviously have wooden ship building in your blood!!!

[Mycenius]

Positively outstanding work Jonas! you obviously have wooden ship building in your blood!!!

And Iron in your Heart!

(or at least your crew's heart)

[TexaS]

Well... I live on a street named after ropemakers, so that takes care of the rigging...

[TexaS]

You thought this thread was finished, but I'v yet again found a way to make a ship loose guns/firepower and even drop in rates.

This time it's the one I talked about earlier in this thread and others.

Target:


Way to do it:


Work done so far:

First cut


Removed the whole gundeck


Removed stern and rudder


Split in all the parts needed for my conversion.
Put together the bottom. Glued rudder and ship sides to bottom. (Original glue let go)
Main mast broke while filing the cut smooth. It was vibrating very much when I was cutting.


Glued parts together to make a ship. Will use milliput to fill some holes and figure out how I will cut the stern part.

[7eat51]

And the madness continues.

I admire your tenacity.

[Mycenius]

And the madness continues.

That about sums it up!!

If you lived down here paying a fortune in freight for everything you'd be a bit damn less hasty to vandalise your expensive models!!!

[TexaS]

I'm guessing it's about the same price in shipping as to Sweden. My order from the Anchorage store had $60 postage...

[TexaS]

...and I'm improving them, not vandalizing...

[Mycenius]

I'm guessing it's about the same price in shipping as to Sweden. My order from the Anchorage store had $60 postage...

Yurrppp! But USPS is the most expensive postal service under the sun unfortunately which doesn't help... Thank heavens Keith is onto it - I experienced first hand the US Post Office with last in the USA twice (On Big Island, Hawaii, and in California at Cambria or Carmel by the Sea IIRC) - and had opposite extremes of experiences with the staff and the horribly confusing systems...

[Mycenius]

...and I'm improving them, not vandalizing...

Yeah sure, that's what they all say...

[TexaS]

After cutting the stern part in two and filing it dow to fit with a deck less I blew on the top part to get rid of dust.

It disappeared completely!



I'm going to have to build a new one from plasticard.





Comparison to the other two 74's




When not used as HMS Atlas it could be used as a large 74.

[Gunner]

After cutting the stern part in two and filing it dow to fit with a deck less I blew on the top part to get rid of dust.

It disappeared completely!

That would drive me crazy and I'd still be looking for it.
You put the big bad wolf who blew the three little pigs house down, to shame.
Hope you find it before the vacuum cleaner does.

[Mycenius]

After cutting the stern part in two and filing it dow to fit with a deck less I blew on the top part to get rid of dust.

It disappeared completely!

It Wot....???!!!

[Coog]

The cat got it.

[TexaS]

It drove me crazy! I searched for it behind the computer screen, among the paints, on the floor, among the unpainted miniatures, and tried to look behind the radiator, but then my dust allergy made my right eye swell up and I had to quit the search. I will probably go at it again, later. I will hate hearing it disappear into the vacuum cleaner.

I had counted on using the balcony of the upper part and hide the joint below, but now I'll use the one that's there and make the upper part.
If it turns out well, perhaps I could do it if I make a Tonnant mod of SGN102. I'm not that pleased with the look of that.

[Mycenius]

It drove me crazy! I searched for it behind the computer screen, among the paints, on the floor, among the unpainted miniatures...

Ohhhhh! I thought you meant it had 'disintegrated' and literally vanished before your eyes forever - not that you had simply lost it!!!

I had envisaged you blowing on the model to clear the dust and the deck literally vaporising (like someone on a Star Trek Transporter) before your eyes - only never to exist again...

[TexaS]

If my old cat had still been alive I would have blamed her for sure. Not it was a ball of dust among the cables behind the computer screen that had taken it. It's found and applied to the ship. After some touch ups I can varnish and make the rigging.

Then we'll see...
Perhaps a Tonnant and a wreck from two Téméraires...

[Mycenius]

[TexaS]

It's been snowing again so apparently spring is off. That makes it harder to spray the ship with varnish.

At least here she is with the stern complete.

[Torrence]

Does anyone have information about razeed 74s of the Temeraire-class?
The pictures in this thread (and the great outcome) inspired me to do some razeeing myself.

As far as I know, Temeraire-class ships were razeed quite often and there were two different variations:
-52-gun frigate ("classic" Razee frigate)
-58-gun ship (still a twodecker; only the quarterdeck was removed)


In Sails of Glory terms they should roughly look like these:

[Torrence]

All I was able to find are these plans for the 58-gun Razee "Elephant":

http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collect...cts/80862.html
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collect...cts/80863.html
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collect...cts/80868.html

Unfortunately, she originally was a ship of the Arrogant-calss (the same as HMS Bellerophon), not Temeraire...

[Naharaht]

It looks good, Jonas, even if it is not quite complete yet.

[TexaS]

They were completed almost a year ago but I guess they got their own threads when finished. I think it was mostly rigging left on the Atlas.

[Dr.Maturin]

Its a nice idea but assuming its the red bits yo are cutting off then you are actually removing the bits that survived in the real configuration and I fear you'd end up with something that looked extremely "cranky", as well as losing much of the bow and stern detail. That said it might work.

Interesting comment re metal models - of course if we were working in 1/1200 you wouldn't actually need to do a conversion as there are plenty of 1/1200 razee models available :)

But if going for the metal option could you not start with a bigger ship to partly off-set the scale difference? And yes, I know that there will be other problems still left to deal with.
Just a thought!