Much to less informations from Ares!

[Arakus]

Hello,

but i am a bit disappointed from Ares atm. because they give us much to less info about SGN.
Even in their upcoming list on their homepage is nothing for october and november for the game planned, no new releases and also no restock!

Maybe i am wrong but when there is no restock or new stuff planned to be released until next year then it looks like they abondened it.
There will be no new players attracted with such poor info politics and from the players base this game already has will some go on to other games.

Instead of writing of eventually making ww1 or ww2 things to the game on boardgeek they should add some stuff/info to the game they already released.

Sorry if i be a bit harsh but i am a bit upset atm. about this behavior.



Don't get me wrong, this community at anchorage is awesome.
Each one is helpful and the infos which are released here is great.
But this is a fan based support and nothing from the delvelopers at all.

[Naharaht]

Perhaps something will be announced for December release to take advantage of the Christmas market. They ought to re-release the Starter Set.

[Arakus]

Perhaps something will be announced for December release to take advantage of the Christmas market. They ought to re-release the Starter Set.

If a restock or new release of the starter set is the only stuff the announce for this year then its like a slap in the face of all fans of this game......

[Nightmoss]

We've been on 'informational' hold for quite some time. I suspect Ares is waiting for the Victory and Constitution pre-production items to arrive, or if they've already received them they haven't decided if they're acceptable or not? As for the restock of Wave 1 and Starter Sets I think those are on the way to the warehouse, but we already know from past experience that communication along those lines is mediocre at best.

It may also be that they're holding on all information until they've decided what to push out for Esen Spiel, which is October 16-19th this year?

Waiting is frustrating, but I've got other hobbies and projects to pass the time, fortunately.

[Arakus]

.....As for the restock of Wave 1 and Starter Sets I think those are on the way to the warehouse......

Look here:
http://www.aresgames.eu/upcoming-products

There is only wave 2 restock planned for the next months, no starter set or wave 1.
How will they sell stuff if they don't deliver some to the shops?

[Nightmoss]

Look here:
http://www.aresgames.eu/upcoming-products

There is only wave 2 restock planned for the next months, no starter set or wave 1.
How will they sell stuff if they don't deliver some to the shops?

You're correct on it being only Wave 2.
Actually, now that I think of it, the Starter Set is already in a second printing. I cannot guess what's going to happen to Wave 1 reprinting or another printing of the Starter Set if that's sold out again?

[Arakus]

Hmm, maybe i have a bad day and take it to serious atm.?

I should relax a bit, maybe modding a ship and look at the web tomorrow if there is something new.

[7eat51]

Jörg, I think you are part of a group of us who desire to see this game succeed. It is easy for us to become frustrated or anxious, especially when we don't see things happening and communication from Ares is infrequent. We might be in calm waters right now, but hopefully, fair winds are coming.

For those of us here, now is an especially good time to revisit and engage the solo rules and campaigns, sign up for a daily thread, etc. We have a lot to offer each other, so we can at least drink from that cup. When new ships arrive, we'll be in a better position to incorporate them.

By the way, Jörg, congratulations on your promotion. That was your 100th post.

[Naharaht]

Congratulations on your promotion, Jorg.

If Ares have decided to incorporate the 'Errata and Addenda' into a reprinted rulebook, that would delay the re-issue of the Starter Set.

Diamondback knows something about a Wave 3 but he is not at liberty to divulge it. Read the 'Second Wave Updates from Ares' thread.

[Arakus]

Congratulations on your promotion, Jorg.

Tanks a lot, didn't see that, i wish my 100. post would be a bit nicer..

If Ares have decided to incorporate the 'Errata and Addenda' into a reprinted rulebook, that would delay the re-issue of the Starter Set.

Thats a point why they eventually delayed the starter set reprint. Maybe the first wave reprint is delayed bacause the mast breaking problem as the boxes must be enhanced.

Diamondback knows something about a Wave 3 but he is not at liberty to divulge it. Read the 'Second Wave Updates from Ares' thread.

Ok, i will read what he write there, atm i have a bit cooled down. Sometimes a litte relax works wonders..

[Berthier]

Well done Jorg, you're now an official midshipman and can behave as they would!

[Coog]

Congratulations on your promotion Jörg.

[Nightmoss]

Yes indeed. Congratulations on your promotion!

[Gunner]

Congratulations midshipman

Like you Jörg, I'm more than a little put off by the lack of information from Ares, no matter what the excuse.
Until I see the stores restocked and information on the V&C and wave 3, I'm done buying their products.
X-Wing caught my eye and pocketbook.

[Diamondback]

I also know about some new stuff coming in the Wave 1 reprint, but again I don't consider myself at liberty to say more than there's an added offering for each sculpt. (And it won't be the mentioned-on-BGG Kickstarter-names-with-new-paint versions!)

[kenji]

I also know about some new stuff coming in the Wave 1 reprint, but again I don't consider myself at liberty to say more than there's an added offering for each sculpt. (And it won't be the mentioned-on-BGG Kickstarter-names-with-new-paint versions!)

The suspense you are creating with your hints is killing me

Hopefully Ares will help the community by providing more news soon.

[Diamondback]

I broached Eric's idea of them hiring a social media intern, and their position was basically "that's part of what we bring some of you guys from the fan community onto the inside for." So you can treat that as not so much from me, as from RdM via me.

Wave 2 second run is shipping soon if not already, by the way! I asked CSI to hold the replacement order for my four broken First Rates until the could send 2nd-run stock, and just got the tracking number yesterday.

[kenji]

Wave 2 second run is shipping soon if not already, by the way!

Would I be correct in assuming that these Wave 2 ships will come in the newly enhanced packaging that is designed to prevent miniatures damage?

[Diamondback]

Yes, Kenji--that was one of the things I specifically requested that they wait to replace my defectives until they could draw from that stock, and forwarded Roberto's "How to Tell" notes.

They should be in next Tuesday, I'll report on 'em then.

[Coog]

Until I see the stores restocked and information on the V&C and wave 3, I'm done buying their products.

If I remember correctly with what you have already bought, do you really need any more?

X-Wing caught my eye and pocketbook.

Same here. I've been playing once a week and having a lot of fun.

And there is plenty of new stuff coming that I can't wait to get.

On top of that, I'm not really that enthused with the choice of SOG sculpts offered thus far and haven't bought any Wave 2 sculpts yet, waiting to see what Wave 3 has to offer before I invest anymore in the game.

[Gunner]

[QUOTE=Coog;39007]If I remember correctly with what you have already bought, do you really need any more?

He who dies with the most toys, wins And it doesn't look like I'm losing.

[Diamondback]

"He who Dies With The Most Toys... Still DIES."

[Gunner]

"He who Dies With The Most Toys... Still DIES."

But

[Diamondback]

But you STILL can't take it with you... LOL

[Gunner]

But you STILL can't take it with you... LOL

I ordered a three decker coffin

[Diamondback]

Cool, so if a little grave-robbery is in order I know who to dig up. :P

[7eat51]

I broached Eric's idea of them hiring a social media intern, and their position was basically "that's part of what we bring some of you guys from the fan community onto the inside for." So you can treat that as not so much from me, as from RdM via me.

That means they don't get it. It is similar to the difference between handing a camera to a guest at a wedding and hiring a professional photographer. Such a response saddens me given my desire to see them succeed.

[Nightmoss]

That means they don't get it. It is similar to the difference between handing a camera to a guest at a wedding and hiring a professional photographer. Such a response saddens me given my desire to see them succeed.

A very unfortunate response, which only reinforces my concern on how well Ares will be able to optimize SoG marketing and success in future.

[csadn]

But you STILL can't take it with you... LOL

"Someone called?"

[Arakus]

Ok, friday evening and another week without any infos from Ares......

[Popsical]

To be honest, if a company like ares wasnt throwing everything at their Tolkien stuff now id be concerned.
We cant expect much else before the new year.

[DeRuyter]

Here is an update of sorts in a post by Andrea on BGG yesterday:

"We are now going to release Spanish ships, but they are not necessairly a new faction - you can use them together with Spanish ships, as they fought at Trafalgar. So you do not need to build a whole fleet out of them.
Same for US ships - Thorn being already released, USS Constitution coming soon."

Still leaves open the question of when will Wave 3 be released of course.

[Diamondback]

Well, that's one less cat I gotta worry about letting out of the bag... :)

[David Manley]

.....a new faction

"Faction" - geez, I hate the casual use that gamers have for that word.

[Arakus]

Here is an update of sorts in a post by Andrea on BGG yesterday

Can you post the link pls?

[Coog]

Here is an update of sorts in a post by Andrea on BGG yesterday:

"We are now going to release Spanish ships, but they are not necessairly a new faction - you can use them together with Spanish ships, as they fought at Trafalgar. So you do not need to build a whole fleet out of them.
Same for US ships - Thorn being already released, USS Constitution coming soon."

Still leaves open the question of when will Wave 3 be released of course.

I'm not sure what to make out of the "Same for US ships" comment on US ships.

[Gunner]

Well, that's one less cat I gotta worry about letting out of the bag... :)

Can the Spanish rates be let out of the bag?

[Arakus]

Can the Spanish rates be let out of the bag?

Well for spanish ships of this time there are a few possible:

112 gun SoL class
80 gun SoL class
74 gun SoL class
32 - 36 gun frigate class

I will hope the will release the Santissima Trinidad as a special ship like the Victory and Constitution.

As they released 4 model types per wave before its possible that they release these 4 models types obove, the american can maybe be some frigates of the last type.

[Gunner]

As much as I would like the Santissima, I hope they release a 74 and the Frigate first

[Diamondback]

Can the Spanish rates be let out of the bag?

Ed, do you have any idea how much badgering it took just to get e'm to give up THAT much? LOL Every two weeks: "The natives grow restless... I understand y'all have a lot on the plate, but please give me an OK to placate them with SOMETHING."

[Gunner]

Even that much was enough to have me hold off on X-Wing purchases for a while. I do want to gather a Spanish fleet. Thanks

[Diamondback]

BTW, Jorg, since I can't reply at BGG do to them wanting to Out some HIGHLY sensitive personal info, Santissima Trinidad WILL be a Special--there's no way they CAN do her as a regular, and for her place in Spanish naval history she DESERVES nothing less.

WTF is it with stupid monkeys on the Internet wanting to help enhance the Bullseye I have to deal with having on my back every day? First AOPA, then BGG... which pack of butt-clowns is gonna try to HAND my personal info to the stalker I inherited from my ex next? I don't carry a (for the record, licensed) .45 everywhere just because I like guns or think they're cool... it's because there IS a sick SOB out there that both CAN and WANTS TO kill me.

[David Manley]

BTW, Jorg, since I can't reply at BGG do to them wanting to Out some HIGHLY sensitive personal info....

Just do what everyone else does and make something up. Its not as if BGG will sue you for providing false information

[Diamondback]

Right, I'm sure that'll work next time I order from BGG Store too... LOL

Is there ANYONE else in the gaming community that's ever had to face a stalker problem? Now you all see why I don't do Facebook or Twitter, and am only vague about my location and so vicious about guarding my anonymity... :)

Apologies for the rant, y'all.

[Arakus]

BTW, Jorg, since I can't reply at BGG do to them wanting to Out some HIGHLY sensitive personal info, Santissima Trinidad WILL be a Special--there's no way they CAN do her as a regular, and for her place in Spanish naval history she DESERVES nothing less.

Thx for clarify, i just couln't think they release this huge ship as a normal model as it was the only one in its class so it must be a special model.
As for the other rates i believe the 112 gun SoL class will be a model as there was some very famous ships in the spanish navy in this class. ( and i believe they will look good as model! )
For the other models i am not sure, 80 guns class is a spanish and french thing so they can make also french ships with the model.
And the 74 gun SoL is a must i think and can be used for other countrys too as prize ships.

[David Manley]

Right, I'm sure that'll work next time I order from BGG Store too... LOL

Is there ANYONE else in the gaming community that's ever had to face a stalker problem? Now you all see why I don't do Facebook or Twitter, and am only vague about my location and so vicious about guarding my anonymity... :)

Apologies for the rant, y'all.

I know plenty of gamers in the "less conventional" side of international relations and military service who face the same issues. They get along by just making stuff up :)

I don't think buying from the BGG store is compulsory.....

[Arakus]

A new info from Andrea Angiolino in answer of my question if Santissima Trinidad will be a special ship:

I think that it will probably be a third special pack, in due time. Before that, to be quicker we will have other spanish ships in the 3rd series. And even before, to be even quicker, a couple of French ships captured by the Spanish and used by them in their navy among the reprints of Series 1.

So we will see some wave 1 ships as spanish ones soon. ( or what ares thinks when they say soon )

[csadn]

Is there ANYONE else in the gaming community that's ever had to face a stalker problem? Now you all see why I don't do Facebook or Twitter, and am only vague about my location and so vicious about guarding my anonymity... :)

Not personally; however, some of my associates *can* relate -- and most of them are *much* more heavily-armed than just a solitary .45 (I know one guy, an author, who has a closet whose contents one could use to overthrow a couple sub-Saharan-African nations).

And since my father worked on SDI: Yeah, I understand the phrase "Operational Security". (I answered some... unusual... phone calls as a child.)

[Nightmoss]

Right, I'm sure that'll work next time I order from BGG Store too... LOL

Is there ANYONE else in the gaming community that's ever had to face a stalker problem? Now you all see why I don't do Facebook or Twitter, and am only vague about my location and so vicious about guarding my anonymity... :)

Apologies for the rant, y'all.

I don't have a stalker, but I certainly wont do Facebook or Twitter for issues of privacy most folks don't even stop to think about!

[Diamondback]

Not personally; however, some of my associates *can* relate -- and most of them are *much* more heavily-armed than just a solitary .45 [snip]

LOL, Chris, I'm only talking about Daily Carry, not Homestead Defense. :)

David, point... but when you're a completist collector that means having to deal with them sometimes for exclusives--I'll send them a note to ask if they have a better fix for mailing but not forum display.