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    Random suspicions from the generation before the table...

    First off, the gun-deck layout used on Temeraire (28x32# Lower, 30x18# Upper, 16x8# QD/FC) originated in 1739 with three one-off's: Francois Coulomb II's 1739 Terrible, Pierre Morineau's 1744 Invincible which when captured became the root-stock for almost all Thomas Slade's SOL designs and Geslain's 1744 Magnanime. From there, between designers and dimensions I'd be comfortable preliminarily grouping the "T Minus One"-generation 74's thusly: (blank lines are separations)

    1739 Terrible (F Coulomb II) 50.06x14.4

    1744 Invincible (Morineau) 52.2x15.01 - I suspect Invincible would be better represented by a Slade 74 with new beakhead and sternboard

    1744 Magnanime (Geslain) 53.59x14.45

    1746 Conquerant (F Coulomb II) 50.99x13.97

    1747 Monarque-cl. (B Ollivier) 53.59x13.97 1747 Monarque->1747 HMS Monarch, 1747 Intrepide, 1747 Sceptre
    1749 Magnifique (unknown) 53.59x13.97 1749 Magnifique , 1751 Entreprenant, 1753 Guerrier

    ?1749 Temeraire-cl (F Coulomb II) 52.94x13.97 1749 Temeraire->1759 HMS Temeraire, ?1752 Redoutable

    1749 Couronne (unknown) 54.24x14.29

    ?1750 Florissant (Morineau?) 53.92x14.62 1750 Florissant, ?1753 Prudent

    ?1752 Palmier (J Chappelle?) 53.16x13.97 1752 Palmier, ?1752 Heros

    1753 Courageux->1761 HMS Courageux (J Geoffroy) 52.50x14.64

    ?1754 Defenseur (Salinoc?) 53.27x14.29 1754 Defenseur, ?1759 Thesee

    ?1755 Hector (J-M-B Coulomb) 51.88-53.54x14.45-14.69 1755 Hector->1782 HMS Hector, 1757 Centaure->1759 HMS Centaur?

    /?1756 Diademe (J-L Coulomb?) 54.57x14.13 1756 Diademe->1792 Brutus, ?1756 Zodiaque, ?1757 Minotaure
    |1763 Cesar (J-M-B Coulomb?) 54.57x14.13 1763 Zele, 1768 Cesar, 1777 Destin
    |?1766 Marseillais (unknown) 54.57x14.13 1766 Bourgogne, 1766 Marseillais-?>1794 Vengeur du Peuple
    \?1778 Heros one-off (J-M-B Coulomb) dims in table above)

    1756 Glorieux->1782 HMS Glorieux (Clairin-Deslauriers) 53.34x14.44

    1757 Souverain (unknown) 53.27x14.13 1757 Souverain->1794 Peuple-Souverain->1798 HMS Guerrier, 1760 Protecteur

    1758 Robuste (Groignard?) 56.84x14.40

    ?1762 Diligent (Groignard?) 57.16x13.97 1762 Diligent, 1762 Six Corps

    1766 Palmier (rb from 1752 Palmier)->1782 UK ??? (no design or dim data found)

    1764 Citoyen (J-L Ollivier?) 55.05x14.13 1764 Citoyen, 1746 Conqurant 1765rb, 1766 Actif

    1769 Bien-Aime (Groignard) 55.22x14.13 1769 Bien-Aime, 1770 Victoire?, 1776 Fendant
    Last edited by Diamondback; 06-27-2014 at 21:47.

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