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    I'm making labels for a new ship, but I want to be sure I'm using proper spelling. For the 120 gun Orient. Should it be l'Orient, L'Orient or just Orient? I expect I'll do more of these Ocean class ships as they're pretty impressive.
    Thanks much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmoss View Post
    I'm making labels for a new ship, but I want to be sure I'm using proper spelling. For the 120 gun Orient. Should it be l'Orient, L'Orient or just Orient? I expect I'll do more of these Ocean class ships as they're pretty impressive.
    Technically it's _L'Orient_, short for _Le Orient_; in the same way ships are usually referred to as "the _[ship name]_" (a practice which becomes really irritating when an English speaker refers to a non-English-named ship as "the [non-English word for "the"] _[ship name]_, as in "the _L'Orient_"; an example of this crops up in _The Maltese Falcon_).

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    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    Technically it's _L'Orient_, short for _Le Orient_; in the same way ships are usually referred to as "the _[ship name]_" (a practice which becomes really irritating when an English speaker refers to a non-English-named ship as "the [non-English word for "the"] _[ship name]_, as in "the _L'Orient_"; an example of this crops up in _The Maltese Falcon_).
    Thanks Chris. I saw enough name variations on the web to make me want to check in here. I'm going with L'Orient, which also looks better imho.

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    The correct name is Orient, Jim.

    "L'" or "Le" is an article

    Like in German the name of the ships are without articles. (Bismarck not "Die Bismarck")

    You'll never say "USS The Missouri", too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comte de Brueys View Post
    The correct name is Orient, Jim.

    "L'" or "Le" is an article

    Like in German the name of the ships are without articles. (Bismarck not "Die Bismarck")

    You'll never say "USS The Missouri", too.
    OK, so I drop the article, which I can understand. Just out of curiosity did the French ever include another designation in their ship names? We often see USS, HMS, RMS, CSS, SMS, RNS, etc., in ship names. Thanks!

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    My first French ship, a Langton 120 Ocean class. I expect it wont be my last French ship, but having just come off a GHQ Victory build I can see that the hull detail is a tad more refined in their molds. You still can't beat Langton sail options though.

    I also included some shots of the Santisima Trinidad with the Orient. I'm pretty sure someone here mentioned the fact that these particular French ships were as big (if not bigger) than the ST. Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comte de Brueys View Post
    The correct name is Orient, Jim.

    "L'" or "Le" is an article

    Like in German the name of the ships are without articles. (Bismarck not "Die Bismarck")

    You'll never say "USS The Missouri", too.
    Thanks Sven. I always had a problem with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmoss View Post
    ... Just out of curiosity did the French ever include another designation in their ship names? We often see USS, HMS, RMS, CSS, SMS, RNS, etc., in ship names.
    I don't think so.

    Neither under the reign of the Roi Soleil Louis XIV they add designations to the ship's names.

    I knew the German Kaiserreich (1871 - 1918) named some ships with an additonal designations like SMS (Seiner Majestät Schiff = Her Majesty's Ship) or SMY (Seiner Majestät Yacht = Her Majesty's Yacht)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comte de Brueys View Post
    I don't think so.

    Neither under the reign of the Roi Soleil Louis XIV they add designations to the ship's names.

    I knew the German Kaiserreich (1871 - 1918) named some ships with an additonal designations like SMS (Seiner Majestät Schiff = Her Majesty's Ship) or SMY (Seiner Majestät Yacht = Her Majesty's Yacht)

    Thanks Sven. Nice model by the way. Is that one of your creations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmoss View Post
    Just out of curiosity did the French ever include another designation in their ship names? We often see USS, HMS, RMS, CSS, SMS, RNS, etc., in ship names. Thanks!
    No -- they let the British do that for them.... >;)

    Quote Originally Posted by Comte de Brueys View Post
    You'll never say "USS The Missouri", too.
    *We* might not -- you'd be amazed at the linguistic atrocities I've heard....

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