Pick a date

**Gunner** · 07-21-2013, 17:46

Pick a date that you think the KS items will reach the Anchorage.

Pick a date is over. Keith will let me know the date they arrive at the Anchorage..

Since it doesn't look like I can get the exact date it arrives at the U.S. distributer, I'm changing it to the date that it arrives at the Anchorage. The winner will get their choice of any SoG ship with the exception of the 4 Kickstarter ships.

Must receive any changes or new entries by Aug. 31st. And you can't pick a date used by someone else.

XMizzen-----------Sept. 13th.
XCpt Kangaroo --Sept. 20th.
XComte de Brueys-Sept. 24th
XQfunK!----------Sept. 27th
XJack Aubrey-----Oct. 1st (Birthday)
XTmon------------Oct. 3rd
XBerthier -------- Oct 4th
XOld Ironsides -- Oct. 7th
XGrouperKicker --Oct. 11th
XNightmoss ----- Oct.14th
XCmmdre ------- Oct. 15th
XDe Ruyter------ Oct. 16th
XDevsdoc ------- Oct. 21st (Birthday)(Eric's/7eat51 Birthday too)
XDavid Manley --Oct. 23rd (Birthday)
XGaz--------------Oct. 25th
X7eat51----------Oct. 28th.
XThe Barrelman- Oct 29th.
XAndy Blozinski---Oct. 31st.
XCpt Kangaroo ---Nov. 4th
XNaharaht-------- Nov. 11th.
XKelsith----------- Nov. 15th. (requested by private message)
XVolunteer--------Dec. 2nd
XCoog------------Oct. 18th 2014

**Cpt Kangaroo** · 07-21-2013, 20:12

Ed, you need to define this a little.

Do you mean the date of delivery?

**Gunner** · 07-21-2013, 20:17

Sorry, I thought it was pretty clear. When the shipment from China is delivered to the U.S. distribution warehouse..

**Nightmoss** · 07-21-2013, 20:19

Here's my guess (well several dates are being thrown out, actually), and I'm being conservative in my estimate, but not terribly so.

Gets to US warehouses by the end of September 2014 (time machine is busted, please note this should read 2013, edit).
KS backers get their items by October 24, 2013.
US retail stores get their products by November 11, 2013.

If any of these dates slip by more than a few weeks I expect we wont see product until February 2014 (Holidays; Christmas, New Years and Chinese New Year will push it back to the new year).

**Diamondback** · 07-21-2013, 21:20

I'm gonna go mid-September.

**Berthier** · 07-22-2013, 03:59

October 4, delivery to KS backers (In the USA), Trafalgar Day 21st October! You read it here first

**GrouperKicker** · 07-22-2013, 09:37

I'm going to go with Oct. 11th to US Distributors, KS Backers will have packages arrive as early as Oct. 18th.

**Cmmdre** · 07-22-2013, 09:56

OCTOBER 15, 2013 To US distributor. Thought it best to specify the year as well seeing how long we've all been waiting.

**Cpt Kangaroo** · 07-22-2013, 10:20

Originally Posted by Gunner

Sorry, I thought it was pretty clear. When the shipment from China is delivered to the U.S. distribution warehouse..

Thanks Ed, I can be a little thick headed sometimes.

Ok, my guess is early September. Let's say September 4th.

Do I get an extra ration of grog if I win? .

**Gunner** · 07-22-2013, 10:24

Seems like I'm the most pessimistic one here so far.

**Gunner** · 07-22-2013, 10:33

Originally Posted by Cpt Kangaroo

Thanks Ed, I can be a little thick headed sometimes.

Ok, my guess is early September. Let's say September 4th.

Do I get an extra ration of grog if I win? .

If it gets here by 9/4/2013 I'll send you a bottle of Pusser's Rum, and you can mix your own grog.

(Providing your at least 21. If not I'll send it to your dad.)

**Naharaht** · 07-22-2013, 14:12

So they may reach the U.K. by Trafalgar Day.

**csadn** · 07-22-2013, 14:26

Originally Posted by Nightmoss

Gets to US warehouses by the end of September 2014.
KS backers get their items by October 24, 2013.
US retail stores get their products by November 11, 2013.

So time-travel is an option? ;)

**Diamondback** · 07-22-2013, 15:43

Lemme just get some plutonium for the DeLorean... :P

**Nightmoss** · 07-22-2013, 16:07

Originally Posted by csadn

So time-travel is an option? ;)

Oops! Made a mistake. All the 2013's need to be changed to 2014's! And Gunner thinks he's pessimistic!?

**Cpt Kangaroo** · 07-23-2013, 05:47

Originally Posted by Gunner

If it gets here by 9/4/2013 I'll send you a bottle of Pusser's Rum, and you can mix your own grog.

(Providing your at least 21. If not I'll send it to your dad.)

The last time I was 21 happened last century.

**Old Ironsides** · 07-23-2013, 10:56

Since NAVCON is Saturday OCT 5th I am going to say Monday OCT 7th.

**Gunner** · 07-23-2013, 11:12

Originally Posted by Cpt Kangaroo

The last time I was 21 happened last century.

Then your dad's out of luck.

**The Barrelman** · 07-23-2013, 11:20

Originally Posted by Diamondback

Lemme just get some plutonium for the DeLorean... :P

That is sooooo 80's. We live in the 21st century. It's all about Mister Fusion !!

**Devsdoc** · 07-23-2013, 13:34

Hi All,
I hope it will be out on my birthday

. A good PR stunt, 21st Oct

. If not God knows? It would be a missed opportunity

. I Hope for you lot, I'm wrong, but I can see it coming out for Christmas, if Ares miss my birthday

.
Be safe
Rory
PS I'm planning to order from Langton

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**Nightmoss** · 07-23-2013, 15:03

If Ares attends Spiel in Essen (October 24th-27th, 2013) I would think that's a high priority date for general public release purposes? Which also means that it has to be to distributors some time in September if they're going to get it to KS backers before public release? Will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

**Cmmdre** · 07-23-2013, 15:17

In Ares own words

Taking into account all the factors above, we expect to be able to ship the production out of China at the end of August or in the first days of September (after the mass production of the ships is completed, we've to go through the assembly, final packaging, testing).

Normally, the shipment takes about 4 weeks to get to our warehouse, so this means at the moment we expect to ship out your rewards around the end of September.

This optimistic scenario would be if there are absolutely no hold-ups or glitches from here on out.

**Gunner** · 07-23-2013, 17:44

Originally Posted by Cmmdre

In Ares own words

Taking into account all the factors above, we expect to be able to ship the production out of China at the end of August or in the first days of September (after the mass production of the ships is completed, we've to go through the assembly, final packaging, testing).

Normally, the shipment takes about 4 weeks to get to our warehouse, so this means at the moment we expect to ship out your rewards around the end of September.

This optimistic scenario would be if there are absolutely no hold-ups or glitches from here on out.

Yes, I read the KS project update #45. But my money is still on Nov.4th. (Hope I'm wrong)

**The Barrelman** · 07-24-2013, 12:08

I think what we need to ask is not when we get it. But, how fast will the rest of the world gets introduced to the product. I think Ares games (Wings, SoG, etc.) are quality games worthy of a lot more success. If people can see the product is accessible for all gaming types (casual, board, family, etc.), that will be a huge leap for it. The rules and systems are way better then other products like X-Wing (my opinions) yet receive few awards or rave reviews.

**David Manley** · 07-24-2013, 12:20

reaches US distributors October 23rd (my birthday)
reaches European distribitors November 21st

**7eat51** · 07-24-2013, 12:54

Originally Posted by The Barrelman

I think Ares games (Wings, SoG, etc.) are quality games worthy of a lot more success.

I just picked up War of the Rings. Very impressive.

**Diamondback** · 07-24-2013, 13:44

I'd bet a large part of it is FFG's scale and presence on the mass-market scene. When Target and Barnes & Noble stock your product at brick-and-mortar, that's a big help.

The problem on top of that is, Ares has to overcome all the bad PR from the Nexus days when they weren't really making their own decisions but had some pus-sucking numbskull beancounter at Italeri (who frequently can't even do their CORE PRODUCT of scale models right; us modelers say "the Italeri A-10 is what you build when you're NOT building an A-10") who had no competence or comprehension of what the business required forcing things down on them from above as I understand it.

If FFG and Ares partnered they could be a powerhouse, but there's a lot of bad blood on both sides from the Italeri days and it might be a bridge too far.

**Coog** · 07-24-2013, 14:38

Originally Posted by 7eat51

I just picked up War of the Rings. Very impressive.

Another player and I tried playing it Sunday, neither of us having played before, and quit after a couple of hours. Although it has a "Risk" or "Axis and Allies" appearance to it, it is far more complicated than it first appears. You definitely need to get with someone that has played it few times.

**7eat51** · 07-24-2013, 14:45

Originally Posted by Coog

Another player and I tried playing it Sunday, neither of us having played before, and quit after a couple of hours. Although it has a "Risk" or "Axis and Allies" appearance to it, it is far more complicated than it first appears. You definitely need to get with someone that has played it few times.

I will check Boardgamegeek and YouTube. Folks often post instruction or session videos. I have seen some decent ones on other games. Thanks for the heads up.

Will you play it again? The reviews I read spoke highly of the game, and since I thoroughly enjoy Tolkien, I figured I would give it a try. It is not a small game for sure.

**Coog** · 07-24-2013, 15:22

Originally Posted by 7eat51

I will check Boardgamegeek and YouTube. Folks often post instruction or session videos. I have seen some decent ones on other games. Thanks for the heads up.

Will you play it again? The reviews I read spoke highly of the game, and since I thoroughly enjoy Tolkien, I figured I would give it a try. It is not a small game for sure.

We did that and found an excellent sources on YouTube, thinking we could get a quick handle on the game. The only problem was that the parts added up to hours long. Also the miniatures look good but each side was mostly one color. You have to look closely to tell apart the different factions on one side. It seems like it can be a great game but you really need to do your homework before jumping into it.

**Cmmdre** · 07-24-2013, 18:26

I've been reading the War of the Ring rulebook, yes book, and cards to begin familiarizing myself with the game. Picked it up a few weeks back. I have yet to set up and try some game play. I am looking forward to getting to play some time soon. I'll admit it's been daunting but I'll agree with Coog that having someone who is familiar with the game would be preferable. Not to get too far off topic.

**7eat51** · 07-24-2013, 21:16

Paul, when have we ever stayed on topic?

I have a deadline on Monday, after which I plan on working my way through the game's material, and fly my current mission in the solo campaign on the Aerodrome. Carrots make the work more motivating.

When you play, let us know about your experience.

**Diamondback** · 08-11-2013, 01:08

Might I suggest a medal for whoever's closest? Call it "Weathervane Reader" or something and give it only in contests like this?

**Diamondback** · 08-11-2013, 01:09

Originally Posted by The Barrelman

That is sooooo 80's. We live in the 21st century. It's all about Mister Fusion !!

Sorry, IMO "Mr. Fusion" ruined the DeLorean time machine's aesthetics.

**Gaz67** · 08-11-2013, 06:37

My guess is 2013, and I'll be happy with that....

**Gunner** · 08-11-2013, 11:14

Originally Posted by Gaz67

My guess is 2013, and I'll be happy with that....

Shush

, THEY may see your post.

**Jack Aubrey** · 08-19-2013, 13:22

Originally Posted by Gunner

Pick a date that you think the KS items will reach the U.S. distributor.

Gunner --------- Nov. 4th
Nightmoss ----- End of Sept.
Diamondback -- Mid Sept.
Berthier -------- Oct 4th
GrouperKicker --Oct. 11th
Cmmdre ------- Oct. 15th
Cpt Kangaroo -- Sept. 4th.
Old Ironsides -- Oct. 7th
Devsdoc ------- Oct. 21st (Birthday)
David Manley --Oct. 23rd (Birthday)

Don`t forget my birthday, 1st October !!!

**Gaz67** · 08-19-2013, 13:27

I'll try for Sept 9th.

**Devsdoc** · 08-19-2013, 14:16

Originally Posted by Devsdoc

Hi All,
I hope it will be out on my birthday

. A good PR stunt, 21st Oct

. If not God knows? It would be a missed opportunity

. I Hope for you lot, I'm wrong, but I can see it coming out for Christmas, if Ares miss my birthday

.
Be safe
Rory
PS I'm planning to order from Langton

.

I did not say which year

Be safe
Rory

**Gunner** · 08-19-2013, 15:35

Diamondback, can you give me a day in Sept.?

**Gunner** · 08-19-2013, 16:29

Since it doesn't look like I can get the exact date it arrives at the U.S. distributer, I'm changing it to the date that it arrives at the Anchorage. The winner will get their choice of any SoG ship, with the exception of the 4 Kickstarter ships.

Must receive any changes or new entries by Aug. 31st. And you can't pick a date used by someone else.

**Nightmoss** · 08-19-2013, 18:07

Originally Posted by Gunner

Since it doesn't look like I can get the exact date it arrives at the U.S. distributer, I'm changing it to the date that it arrives at the Anchorage. The winner will get their choice of any SoG ship, with the exception of the 4 Kickstarter ships.

Must receive any changes or new entries by Aug. 31st. And you can't pick a date used by someone else.

I'll change to an exact date of September 30th; KS ships arriving at the Anchorage.