It's a Start--Montanes--74 guns

[Nightmoss]

Jim,
Looking good! I'm so glad for you, but hate you too! She is looking GREAT. If the rigging is only 1/2 as good, You will have lovely ship.
Be safe
Rory

Thanks Rory. Like I said above, your pictures, ships and encouragement really made this work. I just hope my rigging turns out half as good as yours and Vol's.

[Devsdoc]

Thanks Rory. Like I said above, your pictures, ships and encouragement really made this work. I just hope my rigging turns out half as good as yours and Vol's.

Jim,
When I look at my ships, I alway find fault with them. I know Vol does too! He likes my stuff, and I ask. WHY? I love his work, and he asks me WHY? When I look at my ships I see all the things you lot just don't see! I don't get it? I would like to think I know Vol now to see him as he sees me. Yes I like the OH's and AH's.
Tonigth played a 26 ship game plus the harbour. Matt who I played with said to all that came to look and oh and ah it." It is so nice to play in such a game, makes him feel good." and I won. (photos to come later). O.K.I will make a pack with you all. The day I am happy with my ships is the day I stop doing them. I think Vol may say the same. James who I know little about may think the same too, I don't know?
Jim, we all do not like our own work. End of! I look at your ship and go OH! and AH! So stop beating yourself up and get on with it so I can go Oh & AH. Please.
Be safe
Rory

[Nightmoss]

Jim,
When I look at my ships, I alway find fault with them. I know Vol does too! He likes my stuff, and I ask. WHY? I love his work, and he asks me WHY? When I look at my ships I see all the things you lot just don't see! I don't get it? I would like to think I know Vol now to see him as he sees me. Yes I like the OH's and AH's.
Tonigth played a 26 ship game plus the harbour. Matt who I played with said to all that came to look and oh and ah it." It is so nice to play in such a game, makes him feel good." and I won. (photos to come later). O.K.I will make a pack with you all. The day I am happy with my ships is the day I stop doing them. I think Vol may say the same. James who I know little about may think the same too, I don't know?
Jim, we all do not like our own work. End of! I look at your ship and go OH! and AH! So stop beating yourself up and get on with it so I can go Oh & AH. Please.
Be safe
Rory

Thanks Rory, I will. Too many chores today to make any progress. Tomorrow hopefully I can get back to the ship.

Now show us those pics of your game, especially your winning part!! 26 ships?! Sounds really cool and a lot of fun too!

[Volunteer]

Ditto what Rory said!

[CHolgren]

To any and all, feel free to send me any of your sub par work.

[Nightmoss]

To any and all, feel free to send me any of your sub par work.

Probably not, Cory. I really like Eric's idea of using the 'failures' as wrecks.

P.S. Hurry up and post two more messages so you hit Midshipman!! :)

[CHolgren]

Probably not, Cory. I really like Eric's idea of using the 'failures' as wrecks.

P.S. Hurry up and post two more messages so you hit Midshipman!! :)

OK, How's that?

[Gunner]

Congratulations Midshipman Cory.

[Coog]

Congratulations Cory on your promotion to Midshipman!

[Devsdoc]

Well do Cory,
I love the carrot bit by Jim.
Be safe
Rory

[Nightmoss]

LOL. That works! Congrats, Cory!

[Nightmoss]

So, I got all of two lines rigged today. Too much yard work, etc., but I did have time to paint the base using Wayne's technique from The Miniatures Page. I think it turned out nice, and being able to use any paint that's called "Scurvy Green" is a big bonus!!

[Berthier]

Well done on your promotion Cory

[7eat51]

That's a nice looking base Jim. Is that your first attempt?

[Sea Gull]

I echo what Eric said. What a great looking base.

[CHolgren]

So, I got all of two lines rigged today. Too much yard work, etc., but I did have time to paint the base using Wayne's technique from The Miniatures Page. I think it turned out nice, and being able to use any paint that's called "Scurvy Green" is a big bonus!!

Looks great. Where is the miniature page your referring to? I've been trying to find vols page and have no idea where the link etc. Is hidden. Thanks

[7eat51]

Looks great. Where is the miniature page your referring to? I've been trying to find vols page and have no idea where the link etc. Is hidden. Thanks

Here's a blog of his - really great stuff:
http://volsminiatures.blogspot.com/

[CHolgren]

Here's a blog of his - really great stuff:
http://volsminiatures.blogspot.com/

Thanks Eric, I know I saw it once before, but for the life of me I couldn't find a link anywhere I looked.

[Devsdoc]

So, I got all of two lines rigged today. Too much yard work, etc.

O.K. Jim,
I'm English. Is this a joke = Rigging and yard work or is yard work what we Brits would call gardening, or slave labour set you by your partner. By the way your bases look good.
Be safe
Rory

[Nightmoss]

That's a nice looking base Jim. Is that your first attempt?

Thanks Eric and Chris. Yup, this was my first base painting exercise, which is made easier as it's a Langton sculpted one.

Oh, and I misspoke, Wayne's posts are off of the Maine Wargarming Forum: http://mainewargamershq.lefora.com/2...nic-ships-wip/
He kept his dry brushing much lighter. I prefer seeing a bit more whitecaps. Btw, iirc this link was posted by Berthier quite some time ago, and I'm very happy I found it.

Cory, The Miniature Page is here, but there are sub forums just for us naval guys. http://theminiaturespage.com/
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/topics.mv?id=134

[Nightmoss]

O.K. Jim,
I'm English. Is this a joke = Rigging and yard work or is yard work what we Brits would call gardening, or slave labour set you by your partner. By the way your bases look good.
Be safe
Rory

lol. Rory, I just now realized what I said. That is funny! Yes, yard work here in the US usually means, cutting the grass, weeding, trimming hedges, etc. I think we're crazy. We fertilize the grass so it grows faster and then we have to cut it more often.

So, no I don't have three large masts in the backyard that I was working on instead of the Montanes.

But it's supposed to rain tomorrow so I can spend all day working on the rigging, hopefully.

P.S. Vol posts on TMP too: http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=302590 Not sure about Rory and anyone else from here?

[Coog]

O.K. Jim,
I'm English. Is this a joke = Rigging and yard work or is yard work what we Brits would call gardening, or slave labour set you by your partner.

lol. Rory, I just now realized what I said. That is funny! Yes, yard work here in the US usually means, cutting the grass, weeding, trimming hedges, etc. I think we're crazy. We fertilize the grass so it grows faster and then we have to cut it more often.

Or getting on the tractor and cutting the grass and do a little trimming with the chainsaw.

[Volunteer]

Or mending fences, spreading gravel, puting up deer fencing to protect the garden, etc.

[Nightmoss]

Ayup. Spent most of yesterday helping out at my Mom's place. She had a 'list', so it was another day where I didn't get much quality ship building time, but it was quality time with her. Maybe later today. . . ?

[Devsdoc]

Hi Jim,
Thanks for the new Thread. The report is done with photos and on your new thread. Hope you enjoy it!
Be safe
Rory

[Nightmoss]

Hi Jim,
Thanks for the new Thread. The report is done with photos and on your new thread. Hope you enjoy it!
Be safe
Rory

Nice! I'm going to check it our right now.

[Nightmoss]

I finished most of the rigging this afternoon. All I have left is mounting the flag and pennant. I learned a great deal via this first time effort, and I plan on doing things differently next time around. Between painting and rigging I'll definitely take painting any day; rigging is tedious and frustrating at times. And I now have a crick in my neck that's killing me. Take many breaks. I made many mistakes, but you're not going to notice them unless you get right up close, which is good. Only one picture at the moment, but I'll take more when I get the ship on the base.

[7eat51]

Well done Jim. Hard to believe its your first. Really well done.

[Gunner]

Job well done Jim. I'd be proud to game with that ship against anyone.

[Cmmdre]

You've got the touch. Looks superb Jim.

[Devsdoc]

Jim,
I can only say OH! and AH!
Be safe, Master Shipwright
Rory

[Nightmoss]

Thanks All! You guys are great.

[CHolgren]

Wow Jim, that is fantastic! You've really got the touch.

[Berthier]

Fine work Jim, well done.

[Volunteer]

Ok, excellent job Jim on the paint job and standing rigging. Are you going to stop there? What about the running rigging?. I know you can do it, and judging from what you have done so far, better than the rest of us!

Regards,
Vol

[Devsdoc]

Ok, excellent job Jim on the paint job and standing rigging. Are you going to stop there? What about the running rigging?. I know you can do it, and judging from what you have done so far, better than the rest of us!
Regards,
Vol

Jim,
Do not think bad thoughs about Vol. He is a hard Master, but he is right. From what I've seen you can do it. You have jumped so many walls with this ship. Why stop at the last one? You have a lovely ship, your frist! the rest will be better (BETTER THAN MINE). In the back of your mind' you will thinking can I, Would I. I will tell you, Vol and I did the last jump and you like our work! Come on! the grass is greener on this side of the wall. I think we will be asking you, how do you do it! It may go all wrong. But it will always look good, it could look better for you, not us! GO ON GAVE IT A GO!
Be safe
Rory

[Nightmoss]

Vol, Rory. I will think about trying the running rigging. I haven't even read that part of the Langton book, although I did buy some buff colored thread if I decide to give it a go. As always, thanks for the word of encouragement.

[Nightmoss]

OK, so I might not be done, if I decide to do the running rigging, but for the moment here's the current state of the Montanes. Again, I've copied Wayne from the MaineWargamers Forum in creating a base and nameplate version that really appeals to me. What do you think? Also, just for fun I included a picture of the Montanes with the Paris; one of the Leviathan game minis I repainted. The flying dreadnaught is actually at 1/1200 scale and in this fictional universe time scale placed around 1910. And the last pic, is my next project.

[Coog]

She turned out beautiful. Great work!

[7eat51]

If you're going to have a nameplate, I think what you did looks good. The lettering and flag are well done. What did you print them on? Simple paper?

Looking forward to seeing your next project.

[Nightmoss]

If you're going to have a nameplate, I think what you did looks good. The lettering and flag are well done. What did you print them on? Simple paper?

Looking forward to seeing your next project.

Eric, yes I used MS Publisher and printed it on a slightly heavier paper. I then used a pocket laminating kit to seal the plate and mounted the sticker on a flexible magnet (like the bumper sticker stuff). I can switch nameplates if I decide to have it be another in that class; Neptuno, Monarca or Argonauta. And there are 3 rare earth magnets in the base to hold it in place once I build the case I want to carry these ships in. Thanks!

[csadn]

Thanks All! You guys are great.

Sidebar question: What's your avatar?

[Nightmoss]

Sidebar question: What's your avatar?

It's another repaint from the Leviathans game. The American "Great White Fleet" isn't due out for months (if not years), so I took a Paris Class ship and did it up in the US parade scheme, including some Frou Frou made from costume jewelry. Synthetics to simulate clouds and a blue background from a model railroad backboard. Oh, and these ships are all plastic with basic prepainting done on all classes.

[Green flash]

Looks great,

[csadn]

It's another repaint from the Leviathans game. The American "Great White Fleet" isn't due out for months (if not years), so I took a Paris Class ship and did it up in the US parade scheme, including some Frou Frou made from costume jewelry. Synthetics to simulate clouds and a blue background from a model railroad backboard. Oh, and these ships are all plastic with basic prepainting done on all classes.

That's what I thought, but the avatar pic's so small it's difficult to see details.

(Considered getting this; but then saw how much bespoke stuff it entailed, and gave it a miss. I'm still hoping someone will do reprints of the _Space:1889_ ship minis.)

[Nightmoss]

Received some excellent nylon thread yesterday so I went ahead and did the running rigging on the Montanes. For whatever reason this rigging seemed easier for me than the standing rigging? I suspect it might be the thread I used, which generally was much easier to work with. While I got this brand through Amazon I'm sure you can pick it up locally or through other vendors. I did not use the waxed variety. Here's the link if you'd like to see the product:

http://www.fishusa.com/Uni-Thread-6-0_p.html

So, here are four views of the finished ship. Now it's on to the Spanish 112 gunner.

[Volunteer]

Very nice Jim and unlike me, you did the mizzen rigging correctly. Beautiful ship!

[Nightmoss]

Very nice Jim and unlike me, you did the mizzen rigging correctly. Beautiful ship!

Thanks Vol! I must have read that part of the Langton book five or six times before I got it right in my head.

[Volunteer]

Now that my extremely generous shipmate Rory has gifted me a copy of Rod's book, maybe I'll get it right now!

[Gunner]

Super rigging job Jim. The first time I tried it, I had a headache for two days.
And thanks for the "fishusa.com" heads up.