WHEN DID YOU RECEIVE YOUR V&C? WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THEM?

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Originally Posted by Bligh

I may be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that after a flirtation with the 42 pounder Carronades, most nations gave up with them as too unwieldy and slow to load.
Bligh.

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I know the United States continued to use them on their new 44 gun frigates built in 1814. The British fourth rates being built during and after the War of 1812, such as Leander, Newcastle, and Isis, were still being armed with them. I know the Southampton class frigates had their 42 pounder carronades replaced by 32 pounder carronades sometime around the late 1820s but I don't know if this was to offset their 24 pounder long guns being increased to 32 pounder long guns.

Received! (side note: the amount of packaging people are putting around these ships these days is amazing...)

Constitution is a big ship!

Her sailing characteristics are interesting. She is pretty slow, and hardly outpaces a 2 decker, and seems to have a marginally larger running zone. On the other hand, she can go a lot closer to the wind, almost as good as the smaller frigates, and she has the best reaching angle in the game. The card deck is like the Hebe frigates, except with one of the 1s and 9s dropped out, so if you're playing two-card movement planning then she can't sustain a maximum turn...

That is an interesting deck!

Mine arrived today, April 15 -- singularly appropriate, as this has been an Extremely Taxing Project....

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Originally Posted by Gunner

Time to quit buying ships and save for this,:pistole:

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Received one (Constitution & 3 combat rulers) of two packages sent. Maybe those two highwaymen DB & Chris:drinks: did catch the stage with their wind wagon :beer:

Still waiting for mine to get across the Rockies and the Cascades... no tracking number received here either.

I never did received a tracking#

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Originally Posted by fredmiracle

Received! (side note: the amount of packaging people are putting around these ships these days is amazing...).

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You have that right. They could easily fit in their Wave 1 or 2 packages.:question: But I guess they think the larger package looks more impressive.

Almost forgot to make a comment on the Constitution. An improved peg to make a tighter and flatter marriage to the base. The ships boats on the sides add to the looks. And I like the cutouts on the upper deck gun ports.(I wish the cutouts were a wee bit little larger on the ports behind the masts so I could more easily run some of the rigging through them. Overall a much improved ship.:happy::thumbsup:

PS Also, the masts feel very strong.

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Originally Posted by Gunner

The ships boats on the sides add to the looks.

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I am thinking of making some hoists for the boats on the side, as well as positioning them a bit further astern, and adding a third that hangs over the stern. The stern boat was something that was characteristic of American ships. Also, I will definitely paint all the boats white.

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So what are the white bits on the stern of Victory?

Are you talking about the stern chasers?

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Originally Posted by Gunner

PS Also, the masts feel very strong.

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I agree the masts were improved. I hope this is a good omen for future releases. Secure packaging is great, but provides no protection on the gaming table.:thumbsup:

Mine hit Remote Storage yesterday, won't be able to inspect and fully take delivery and in-process until Tuesday night though.

Has anyone used H.M.S. Victory or U.S.S. Constitution in a battle yet?

My intent has been to get the first aar posted but work has been a bi*** so we'll see... :minis:

Has anyone received them who is not over in the States ?

:minis: Mine arrived yesterday. :clap:

Victory is a heck of a good sailer--in basic game will play like Temeriere class third-rates; in advanced just a slight tick down from them, because of limited number of sharp turn cards

- speed is equivalent to Temeriere = fastest first-rate
- does not have the game-worst sailing angles of the British first rates, but rather the angles of a Ocean class and third-rates
- like third-rates, but unlike other first-rates, deck includes 2 & 8 cards. But only ONE of each. Still a big advantage because the gap between 2/8 and 3/7 is pretty meaningful

Which is very appropriate, because Victory is basically an enlarged Morineau 1744 Invincible (remember, the same ancestor as Bellona and her relatives?) French 74 with an extra gun-deck. While your typical British three-decker was relatively a slow, plodding floating fortress, Victory and her near-sisters were basically 74s pumped full of anabolic steroids and growth hormones, to put it in a nutshell.

Well all this chatter is certainly whetting my appetite to get a look at mine.
Still after this time another month is not going to hurt too much.
I await the first pictures with anticipation.:wink:
Bligh.

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Originally Posted by Bligh

I await the first pictures with anticipation.

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My apologies, Rob. I saw a picture earlier, so I didn't have Sue take any. Tomorrow, we'll do so and post them.

I received my add on Constitution Wednesday, but still haven't received the V&C from my KS order:question:

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Originally Posted by Gunner

I received my add on Constitution Wednesday, but still haven't received the V&C from my KS order:question:

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I'd contact ares, I'm sure there's some mixup

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Originally Posted by 7eat51

My apologies, Rob. I saw a picture earlier, so I didn't have Sue take any. Tomorrow, we'll do so and post them.

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No need to apologize my dear boy. I was simply interested to see what the Victory looked like.
Bligh.

I have the honor of waiting two more weeks until my local vendor gets his shipment in along with a few more wave 1 ships I ordered from him, but I can wait!! Meanwhile, I can dream how my Constitution will be taking on some of those British Frigates sitting patiently in port right now!!

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Originally Posted by 7eat51

My apologies, Rob. I saw a picture earlier, so I didn't have Sue take any. Tomorrow, we'll do so and post them.

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Thanks, Sue. Definitely the "Better Half"... :)

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Originally Posted by Diamondback

Thanks, Sue. Definitely the "Better Half"... :)

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Hmmm.

I probably shouldn't say, "Since I was busy with important matters, I had the cook take and post these pictures."

Seriously, though, Sue is much better than I am at this sort of thing.

If she can beat you in a game of Memoir '44 she's a keeper!

Who cares if she can cook, as you can always order out! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by 7eat51

Hmmm.

I probably shouldn't say, "Since I was busy with important matters, I had the cook take and post these pictures.

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You forgot to mention taking out the garbage.:beer:

Thanks for the pictures! :salute:

Thanks Eric.
It certainly stands scrutiny, as I remember seeing the real one some years ago at Portsmouth.
Also please thank Sue for the photographic work.
David Bailey! Who's he ?
Rob.

Thanky you for the pictures, Sue.

(I like your recently finished USS Constitution much more.)

Got mine. The cruciform pegs are a nice improvement! Except that the bottom peg on my Constitution snapped in half at the cruciform part, and now the ship won't sit in the base properly. :-(

Thanks for the pictures.

Can you glue the peg back together, Amara? You can still 'stick' the ship to the base with Blu-tack ( a removable plasticene like substance sold by stationers to stick posters to walls).

Inspection complete, very satisfied. :)

Arrived down under today, soon to be taken out of ordinary and inspected:happy:

Just got a message from UPS, my ships will arrive on Friday!! :clap:

Will have to prepare the Saluting Batteries!!