It's a bit pricy though at $56.86 for a used one on eBay.
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I looked up the book on amazon, and it is a bit expensive compared to the $3 used books I have been picking up. I will check our interlibrary loan program first, and go from there.
Naval Institute Press seems to put out some quality books. I assume it is a trustworthy press. Is that assumption correct?
The book covering the British Navy in the same series also looks very good, but like the one on the Russian Navy, quite pricy.
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Hi Bobby,
Yes it is, but it is very, very good. It has all the Informations you will need.The 3 fleets, high sea and in shore fleets, shipyards, campaigns, battles and ships lists, history of each ship, armourment etc,. If you like the Russians, this is the book for you, Yes, its a bit pricy, but if you add all the books you buy for the same information its cheep.
Be safe
Rory
You're right Rory, if you can find a book that does cover everything on a subject in which you are really interested, it is well worth the price, since it is rare to find such a book. Usually my problem is I can't find such a book on the subjects I really like and do find them on subjects in which I'm only mildly interested.:sad: (I guess they don't have a book in the series on the French Navy as you can refer to book on the British Navy.):happy:
Coming late into this thread.
Not to mention the fact that the French kept renaming their ships. Some ships were renamed almost every time they returned from a cruise. Very confusing.
In addition to the six high seas fleet vessels Langton also has 7 in-shore Army fleet models under the "Baltic" heading. Rob Eubank doesn't list these on his Waterloo site but if you e-mail him, he will get them for you.
As Rory says, The Russian Warships in the Age of Sail is the best book to get. I did however read another book recently that covered the Baltic Age of Sail period pretty well and included the creation of Petersburg and the Russian Navy and its exploits in the Baltic, North Sea, Atlantic, Black Sea, and Mediterranean. It's called Naval Wars in the Baltic: During the Sailing-ship Epoch, 1522-1850 by Roger Charles Anderson.
Thanks for the Russian titles.
I looked up French books Bobby, and here is one that is pretty cheap, especially used hardbacks - more history than technical, on the 7-year war, and with 100 pages of notes, probably quite a bit for future research: http://www.amazon.com/French-Seven-Y...8581744&sr=1-1
Hi All,
You can add one more ship to the Russian high sea fleet by using Langton's SW1 40 gun frigate of Sweden. The Russians had large battle frigates. They copyed the captured Swedish frigate "Venus". They built 5 classes of ships, all based on the Venus. The Army Fleets or In-shore Fleets of both Sweden and Russian mixed and matched ships and boats
Be safe
Rory
Given the nature of ship design and the very high degree of commonality between ships of different nations let alone ships from different yards and designers within the same country you will be able to put a Russian fleet (or almost anyone else's for that matter - standfast the Swedes "Archipelago Fleet" types for example) from whats out there, or likely to be out there over the next few years, with only a minor repaint or maybe a small bit of filing of stern galleries. They won't be 100% correct, but pretty close and from more than 12" away indistinguishable from what they are meant to be if outfitted with a Russian ensign. I think encountered my first 1/1200 Russian "fleet" sometime around about 1989, made up entirely of British, Russian and Spanish models painted and flagged appropriately
I found an on-line copy:
http://archive.org/details/navalwarsinbalti00andeuoft
The most famous German ships are WW II ones.
Panzerschiff Admiral Graf Spee
http://sailsofglory.org/attachment.p...9&d=1368620229
and
Schlachtschiff Bismarck
http://sailsofglory.org/attachment.p...0&d=1368620229
Haven't looked here in a few days. Lots of great information has shown up. Thanks all for the links and info.
Well, many of the ships names had "aristo" connections; naturally, the Revolutionaries would change them.
One example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_...doc_%281766%29 .
I know tmon from elsewhere -- if there's a bargain to be found, he knows where it is (and that is a compliment). :)
In Argentina, one of the most famous is the Hercules, under the command of the Admiral William Brown fought in the Argentinian independence war.
Even its tragic end (it was confiscate by the English) it remain a symbol of the firsts Argentinian Naval Victories.
In Sweden, except for the obvious Vasa, I think it has to be Kronan. But we have a pretty long naval tradition.
If they indeed add Barbary corsairs as they've said, I'm expecting some Swedish frigates for the First Barbary War, to go along with the US ones.
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http://sailsofglory.org/forumdisplay...Welcome-Aboard
glad to have you here:g&t:
That's a very interesting article about the Kronan of which I was not familiar. I have seen the Wasa (Vasa) in Stockholm about thirty years ago and it was truly impressive but this more recently found ship sounds quite fascinating. Her sinking has parallels with the Mary Rose of Henry VIII time. In this latter case if I remember correctly (which is highly doubtful) she was greatly over gunned and top heavy and heeled over when turning in a wind, water rushed into her open lower gun ports (she was in battle) and the instability, like Kronan, could not be rectified. The injuries described in the wiki report to the sailors on Kronan are also interesting, in the case of the Mary Rose the shifting of the guns and various large objects in the ship caused many deaths and injuries to the crew as she sank and this may explain some of those seen on the Kronan although the description of the type of wounds is not entirely consistent. A great article to point out to us
Bobby,
Not sure what you normally use, but here are some others beyond bookfinder.com that we'd often use in the library when trying to track down used titles for replacement:
http://www.abebooks.com/?cm_sp=TopNav-_-Browse-_-Logo
http://www.alibris.com/
http://www.powells.com/ (Powells is always on the pricey side)
http://www.biblio.com/
Cheers!
Thanks for the links. If you are not familiar with the Half Price Books chain, there are six stores in Wisconsin. I find a lot of used and new books at their stores at great prices. When in Dallas I go to their flagship store. It is much larger than their other stores and has a massive military history section. I've found a lot of out of print books there at very low prices. They do have an online store now. Here is a link to the locations with access to the online store:
http://www.hpb.com/stores/
Look you two,
The plan, THE MASTER PLAN! is do the Russians High Sea Fleet. Then the Swedish HSF. Followed by the Army Fleets or In-Shore Fleet of both Countries. So! stop all this talk of "even more Swedes and Turks". Just leave me alone O.K. :cry:
Be safe
Rory :salute:
Thanks! We have two Half Price Books here in Madison, although they have a lot of competition from locally owned used bookstores. Then again, we've lost many due to the downturn in the economy and a general lack of interest in reading paper copy content. Digital is winning the hearts and minds of most folks now.
I wouldn't mind seeing some privateers, such as the Pride of Baltimore ...
Welcome Chris. When you have a chance, stop by this forum and introduce yourself: http://sailsofglory.org/forumdisplay...Welcome-Aboard
Thanks for your service. When were you in? I was USAF 1989-1994.
I know this game has been mentioned before, but given these comments, here it is again: http://www.gmtgames.com/p-427-blue-c...te-ensign.aspx
Rory, now about the Neapolitan Navy ...
Also noteworthy is GMT are having a 50% off sale of IN STOCK games till the 22nd May which includes Flying Colours, 1805, and Serpents of the Sea plus their two new games on ACW naval battles and campaigns "Iron and Oak" and "Rebel Raiders on the High Seas"
see http://www.gmtgames.com/news.aspx?showarticle=272 for the 50% off voucher on any 2 games and
http://www.gmtgames.com/s-3-in-stock-games.aspx for current in print games
Oh you can get War Galley as well...mind you the discount only applies to 2 games...choose wisely!
Tempted to get "Serpents of the Seas" but I've dropped soooo much money on toys lately.:dazed:
I was USMC 1985-1989. My wife was USAF 1988-1991. Thanks for your service, Eric!
Eric this more like PM posting for you and me tonight. Neapolitan?????????? Have you seen my to do paint list? Oh! a good friend has just given me 9 old "Fleet Line" models of 1st and 3rd rate ships. So I now have my free Merhant Fleet. :singin: "Oh! lucky man". So 5 more Russians to do (One being rigged now), 9 Merhant ships to do and around 12 high sea ships for the Swedish fleet to buy, make and paint. And you talk of the Blo##y Neapolitan fleet of around 4-5 sailling ships. I thougth you where my friend?
Be safe, Shipmate
Rory