Actual color of ''yellow'' ships

Cheers!
Since I have two of the new starters so I'm re-painting all the four ships of one of them after the ships on the old-starter
I've noticed all ships are ''yellow'' and I wonder if that ''yellow'' should be 'actual yellow' or if it was just an easy way for Ares to re-create a light wood colour (some Albatross D.III and D.V in Wings of Glory are ''yellow'' when they should be wood-grain).

So that is my question for you naval experts: should I re-paint my ships in yellow or, say, raw-sienna or yellow-ochre? (for re-creating wood-like collor I usually print in white and then paint with a mix of raw-sienna and yellow-ochre oils for a light-wood look; toast-sienna for a darker wood-collor).

Any thoughts? :)

these are the ships I want to paint my minis after:

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Hi,
I use a base of ochre and after I use a yellow wash, finally I use light yellow to paint details. But I don't recommend you use only yellow.

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Your ships look good, Julian. :thumbsup:

Gracias Julián!
Great looking ships btw. Are they Are's or something else?

Am I correct assuming you use raw-sienna for those ships that have a light-brownish ending and burnt-sienna for those with the darker-red-brown one?

If yes, what color do you use for washing afterwards?

Gracias otra vez ��

ps: ya que eres español ... de qué color pintarías el Santísima Trinidad y el Santa Ana? Te parece que se puede hacer una transformacion más o menos buena tomando un 1st Rate SoL Britanico?

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Originally Posted by Gallo Rojo

Gracias Julián!
Great looking ships btw. Are they Are's or something else?

Am I correct assuming you use raw-sienna for those ships that have a light-brownish ending and burnt-sienna for those with the darker-red-brown one?

If yes, what color do you use for washing afterwards?

Gracias otra vez ��

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I use Ares hull but I use Lagton ( sails, mast, ratlines and mask)
Last year I made a little tutorial about a conversion ship, I add the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/osisfyff6u...rsion.pdf?dl=0

The colors I use are of three different brands:
Game Color, Model Color and Citadel.
To paint the deck, I use:
First: TAU LIGHT OCHRE (CITADEL)
Second: ink wash Charred Brown (GAME COLOR)
Third: I light the TAU LIGHT OCHRE (CITADEL)
Fourth: I light with Bronzed Flesh (CITADEL)

To paint the guns:
First: any metallic color
Second: black ink
Third: dry brush with any metallic color but a clearer range as above (not mixed with white)

To paint the side of the boat:
First: TAU LIGHT OCHRE (CITADEL)
Second: ink wash Charred Brown (GAME COLOR)
Third: I light the TAU LIGHT OCHRE (CITADEL)
Fourth: YRIEL YELLOW (CITADEL)

I use the black color of the brand Model Color because it is matte and does not give any shine to ship.

..:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Gallo Rojo

ps: ya que eres español ... de qué color pintarías el Santísima Trinidad y el Santa Ana? Te parece que se puede hacer una transformacion más o menos buena tomando un 1st Rate SoL Britanico?

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Hola, pues personalmente para hacer la conversión del Santísima Trinidad usaría el barco frances Imperial, es un 120 cañones y es lo que mas se parece al santísima. La dificultad es que no hay ningún barco de Sail of Glory que tenga 4 puentes, y el Santísima Trinidad tenía cuatro tras su remodelación. Pero como te digo, por dimensiones el más parecido es el Imperial de los franceses.
Te dejo foto del Imperial frances:
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Para hacer el Santa Ana, yo usaría uno inglés. Posiblemente el HMS Britania.
Te dejo foto del HMS Britania:
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Si tienes cualquier duda en como hacer conversiones, no dudes en consultarme.
Un saludo.:salute:

Fantástico! me ''sobra'' un HMS HMS Britannia 1762 (Royal Sovereign) porque lo compré dos veces por error ... así que ese va al dique seco para convertirse en el Santa Ana :D
Cuando me ponga con eso quizá te mande un pm para que me des algunas indicaciones, si no te molesta :)
Mi principal duda es la siguiente: sólo le cambiarías las banderas o harías alguna otra transformación? (quizá en el puente de popa, en los botes salvavidas que llevaban, alguna otra cosa? estuve buscando planos, dibujos y blue-prints de los barcos pero no consigo nada que sea definitivo)
Mil gracias otra vez :)
Tus buques son una belleza ... pensaba no meterme con tantos trabajos con los barquitos como con los que me meto con los aviones de WoG ... pero después de ver los tuyos creo que voy a tener que hacerlo ;)

Yo lo que hago es con un cuter o cuchilla hago los listones sobre la cubierta. Es una tarea difícil pero el resultado es muy bueno y si tienes técnica en la pintura, vale la pena ( primero de todo puedes ensayar sobre una superficie similar al plástico).

Las modificaciones para hacer sobre estos barcos son limitadas, por ejemplo yo quito las barcas que vienen y pongo barcas de Langton. Si tienes oportunidad de conseguir piezas de Langton te recomiendo el cambio, vale la pena.

Te dejo un par de fotos de el Santa Ana de Langton para que veas como es la cubierta y el mascarón de popa.
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What a huge aXX! :shock:

:salute: Very nice ships, they look to nice to use. :beer:

Very impressive Julian.
Those are some of the best painted ships for their size that I have ever seen.:clap:
Bligh.

Yes, Julian's ships are stunning.

Incredibly beautiful!

Thanks guys! Glad you like my work. A toast to you!:beer:

You can see more about my work in my facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Model...?ref=bookmarks

They look great.

Back in War at Sea days, a boardmate had a formula for killer natural-wood decking which might help you. Bear in mind, this was in about half the scale... I'd venture that the four ships you picture are meant to be yellow-ochre, while HMS Bellona is probably closer to a "clear-varnished natural wood" finish.

Yellow Ochre is the most correct color, as is Red Ochre for most red sided ships! As DB mentioned, some ships were also plain varnished wood, so it would have a more Aged Oak color tint!

The decks would have a tinged grey shade to them.

FWIW, if you can find Brian McKay's "Anatomy of the Ship" volume on HMS Bellona, I think the artwork on its cover is what Ares was going for. Needs a little blue added in some places, but you can tell that as the first of the "main-stage" Slade Common 74 family they wanted to clearly show her as an earlier ship.

Gracias Julian.
sí, puedo hacer esas transformaciones sin problema -- armo aviones y tanques desde hace años :)

One last question: Langton models are 1:1200 if I'm correct ... will ratlines for that scale fit the 1:1000 Ares' one too?

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Originally Posted by Redcoat

Thanks guys! Glad you like my work. A toast to you!:beer:

You can see more about my work in my facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Model...?ref=bookmarks

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Now that really is pushing the boat out Julián.:clap:
Bligh.

Yellow, what yellow? Pick a yellow you like, I think you would be right. Just go for the one yellow for each ship. I do it works, You can add the odd wooden colour too.
Be safe
Rory