Making Spanish ships the right size.
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Making Spanish ships the right size.
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Thanks for your shots of the Spanish ships Jonas. You have put things into perspective re the Ares vs correct size very succinctly.
Rob.
Not to be... nit picking, but it was me who posted that.
The difference in length is about 5 mm.
It clocks in at very close to the SoG Elizabeth-class.
Yes your pics really show what we been saying Jonas
Am just finishing off rigging my first Spanish 74, the San Nicolas, will post pic as soon as completed
I am honoured to be confused with you Jonas! :salute:Quote:
Originally Posted by TexaS
The honour is mine, good sir. :salute:Quote:
Originally Posted by Volunteer
Oh very nice! Must resist a new period. Actually I have paper models from Roman Seas, but these look so much better and I'd like to try David's rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Volunteer
Sorry Jonas post now corrected.Quote:
Originally Posted by TexaS
It's me age you know!
Rob.
David's STL files for the Greek/Roman and Phoenician/Carthaginian ships are free on Thingiverse Eric.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeRuyter
Not meaning to hijack here but did anyone else have the game Trireme from the 70s, came with 12 plastic Triremes in four colours and damage was charted and drywipe pens used to record.
Think it was PSL games, lost it years ago unfortunately
New recruits for my fleet on offer from Zatu Games arrived today. Two destined for the HEIC and the other three for parts destined for Henry's hulls.
Rob.
Hi there. I have started an HMS Victory, design of 1765. Ship is from Henry Turner miniatures, scale 1/700.
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Good to hear from you again Julián and also good to see more of your fantastic work.
I hope you will grace our new Sub forum display posts with a few of your creations.
Rob.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...911&height=683
Front Left: HMS Polyphemus, Ares upgrade
Front Right: HMS Canada, completely new based on this model
http://modelshipworld.com/uploads/ga..._922_51187.jpg
Rear Left: HMS Victory 1778, Ares upgrade, need references--how much gold goes on beakhead/gallery and are beakhead tops usually deck color or hull color?
Rear Right: ARS San Jose, completely new based on this image unless I find a better reference
https://www.todoababor.es/listado/img/sanjose_max.jpg
HMS Victory 1765. Based on images from the Naval Action computer game.
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Hi Rob. I hope I can add more works more often. I hope everybody is fine. :beer:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bligh
Thanks, Julian--when Keppel took her out in 1778 she was reported as having a red hull.
Yes Chris I remember it being a great game! I played several times over at a friend's house in the mid 70's. It looks like it can still be acquired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Capn Duff
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1709/trireme
Julián, you always make incredible work on the ships. As I see a lot of his work on Facebook I guess he’s not been as active here because 1:700 is a more popular scale now. It’s unfair to compare the two scales as there’s more details on the bigger scale.
It’s a bit hard to show my own work when Julián just posted his fantastic work but I will defend myself by pointing out the scale difference. :wink:
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Still a work in progress.
Jonas, they look nice. They are 1/1000?, resin or plastic print? Herny has really done a great job of 3D design.
Impressive indeed. The fine detail raised a question in my mind which has echoed down the years ever since we started painting guns for the American army for AWI reguarding the trucks for the pieces. Now with the detail fine enough at 1000 to see these features. Did each nation have their trucks painted in national colours or just at the whim of the captain? I have only seen Black, Red, or natural oak on ships still around today such as Victory, or in museums or on the lawns in front of Naval buildings. Has anyone information on this?
Rob.
Julián, they are 1:1000 resin printed. They are printed before I upgraded the printer for anti-aliasing too. Anti-aliasing makes the screen the uv-light is projected through have gray tones and not just black or white. This makes "steps" in the model smoother.
Rob, I'm not sure. I searched the web for information on Spanish gun carriages and found that they were red at an earlier period and decided it was good enough for me. I have seen yellow, too.
I know that British field carrages were greenish grey, American Blue, Spanish Yellow, and French Green, but not sure if the colours followed through to the Navy.
Rob.
Jonas they are beautiful! I wish I could paint so well!Quote:
Originally Posted by TexaS
Here is info on the USS Constitution truck carriages:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bligh
The guns and carriages that are usually found on USS Constitution‘s spar and gun decks are replicas that were researched and manufactured for the 1927-1931 restoration. Over the intervening decades, the wooden carriages have been re-made and re-built many, many times. The 2015-2017 restoration was no exception and all of the gun carriages have had some re-building and refurbishment done to them. The replica 24-pound long guns are today mounted on laminated white oak carriages and wheels (known as “trucks”) that were last fully replaced in the 1992-1996 restoration. The iron carriage hardware is likely from the 1927 restoration, with some replacement pieces being substituted during the last 90 years.
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A laminated white oak 24-pound long gun carriage in the midst of being refurbished. [Courtesy Naval History & Heritage Command Detachment Boston]
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Two 24-pound long gun carriages upon completion of their re-build, including a new paint job in the traditional red color. [Courtesy Naval History & Heritage Command Detachment Boston]
Hear, hear! Jonas, your painting is the standard I aim for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Volunteer
Thank you both very much for the praise.
As do we all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobbs
Rob.
Nowhere near Julian's quality, but more work on Canada...
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Deck is Vallejo 927 Dark Flesh, base hull 856 Ochre Brown to represent "varnished wood," strakes and bulwarks 899 Dark Prussian Blue. Trying to find more pics of the model I'm basing it on (gallery supposedly at ModelShipWorld but can't find it) to better plan the gallery and beakhead work.
I like the way you are using the supports as a painting holder.
They're also being used as temporary bases for assembly. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DeRuyter
I wish that I had thought of that before stripping them off all the ships that Henry sent me.
Rob.
I strip it off before curing the prints to be sure I don’t damage the model. The print is a bit more rubbery before curing after which it gets a bit more brittle. I may have to rethink that. Perhaps I should just cut off the supports for the catheads and lanterns. I also print the ships with the stern higher than the stem to get better details.
A little pop of green for Canada's bulkheads and beakhead, as seen on the reference model...
https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...911&height=683
Other than deck details and guns, and repainting the inner poop bulwarks red (since done; to do there is now the skylight casings), what are the biggest things left I need to do on the hull? I'm thinking about cutting the lanterns off to match Ares, and using wire instead of thread rigging for a little extra reinforcement. That curved inner bulkhead at the front of the quarterdeck doesn't correspond to any feature of the model... did I somehow get my Canada and Ganges prints backward?
When you remove the supports you will see Canada class on the bottom of that ship.
I found that most useful in just confirming that I was correct about the identity of the ships.
Rob.
No DB, the model must be in error. The deck plan for the Canada class vlearly shows the curved bulwarkQuote:
Originally Posted by Diamondback
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https://www.kenthistoryforum.com/index.php?topic=185
Could be that was part of the "Modifications" introduced with Captain too. This is the only ref I could find for Canada herself:
https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/a...lection-no-45/
(note, MSW galleries are hidden to non-members)
That would be a relief if it were because my model will be Captain.
Rob.