It costs about 50% extra.
The dentist resin is more than ten times as expensive.
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It costs about 50% extra.
The dentist resin is more than ten times as expensive.
Jonas, can't you have the clew attached to the next sail aft, like Ares does? That seems like it would improve survivability.
I could and that would probably improve that. It's not a problem for me as I rig my ships but if I made some for non-rigged ships that would be an option. I prefer the more realistic option where the sails draw wind as best they can considering the angles of the rest of the sails.
Julián here are a selection of Santisima cards. Take your pick. They show handling differenced depending on your outlook of the reports of her sailing qualities.
Rob.
Thank you very much Rob :beer:
Glad to be of service to the man who started me on Harbour and Fortification construction Julián.
Rob.
I’d say Veer of 4 would be quite impressive and I’m hesitant to give that to her even as built from the start.
That's why I gave the whole gamut of options Jonas.
Personally I use veer 3 for her as built and veer two as a floating gun platform at Trafalgar. :happy:
Rob.
I agree for the veer of 3, from my reading she was a bit of a pig sailing, same as HMS Prince the 2nd rate.
Yes HMS Prince's ship mat is something I need to look at Chris.
Rob.
The ratlines are on and the standing rigging is done
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Absolutly magnificent!
Thank you Peter
That is brilliant, Vol!
I have little to add except bravo Vol.
Rob.
Thanks Jonas and Rob. I am pretty happy with the way it turned out. Funny that I had finished all of the paper sails for it and stopped for the night. A couple of days later I sat down to work on the ship and made the decision to try to make some cloth sails. Now I'm glad I did.
Superb work Vol, how did you do the ratlines ?
Thanks Chris, and thanks for the rep points as well. I used my home made jigs to make these ratlines rather the 3D jig I have. The lines are spaced too far apart for the scale on the 3D jig in my opinion. I know the little 1/700 Eduard crew figures fit between the spaces, whereas on the shrouds from my home made jig they easily fit across two lines for climbing. I think I have posted photos of the jigs before but here they are again.
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Hi Vol, I've seen your jig before but can't remember if you said how you used it.
Once the thread is fixed to the jig do you soak it in superglue to hold it all together?
Same with the standing rigging, is it superglue to hold it in place and how do you make it taut?
Is it made from a credit card and what did you use to cut into the edges with, it looks too fine to be a saw, was it just a knife?
Finally :wink: are you using sewing thread or something similar?
Cheers
Hi Vol,
I remember you making the jigs but thought you said they didnt work and the ratlines fell apart.
I take it the suggestions of soaking the cottin with watered down pva glue worked ?
Hi John and thanks. Actually they handle quite well. With the steel masts and tight rigging They have remained in tact even after being dropped on occasion. I haven't used the 1/700 scale ships in a game yet, but I have used my 1/1200 scale fleets and the ones I have done this way fare much better than the ships with the stock masts.
To answer your jig questions, as I just reminded Chris, I use just a touch of superglue at each joint. Yes they are made from sandwiched credit/debit card and the slots are cut with a razor saw.
The standing rigging and running rigging is all tied at each point with a touch of glue to secure the knots. The taughtness comes from the steel masts, they don't bend.
I use black cotton sewing thread for the standing rigging and fly-tying Uni-Thread 6/0W & 8/0W for the running rigging. I wax the black thread before use.
Hope I covered your questions.
Thanks for the clarification Vol
Hello folks,
My "Black Seas Scenary Pack" is completed.
Here are a few pictures, even if my skills are not as great as some
others here, but I am quite satisfied with it.
First an overview of all components also in comparison with the
SoG L'Orient (picture 2+3). The sizes due to the scals are not too
big despite previous fears.
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Mantello tower + lighthouse + coast battery
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The 1st Rate
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The 3rd Rate
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The terrain looks excellent, the battered ships also , they will enhance your games greatly, well done
looks fine to me also Lankin.
I always think that any 3D scenery that players can build is going to be better than relying on the flat card shoals and coastline on offer from Ares, so one up to you sir.
Rob.
thanks a lot guys, I hope I can add a thing or two to this :happy:
Great job!
The terrain looks great Lankin. I really like that martello tower and lighthouse! And I am surprised the wrecks don't appear out of scale at all to the 1/1000 scale Aries ship from what I can see in the first few photos. Well done and nicely painted.
Those are very enticing wrecks and they do look like they'd fit right in in our scale. Is the tall lighthouse part of the set? I have a weakness for lighthouses.
Is the brown flat Lima bean shaped piece a shoal?
To @Dobbs and all interested:
The following are part of the "Black Seas: Scenery Pack" - Scale 1:700
1 Lighthouse
1 Martello tower
2 Cannon Emplacements
1 Mortar Emplacement
1 Sunk 1st Rate
1 Sunk 3rd Rate
5 Rocks
And sorry for my wild scenario setup, I mixed wildly out of necessity. The base is the
Wings of Glory - Coastal Playmat - well, i have nothing as a good 3D-Background
right now :sad: - on it I tried to use the 2D-SoG Terrain Packs and the
Freebooters Fate: Forests & Lakes Mini-Mats to build a base for the
Black Seas 3D parts.
So the "Lima bean shaped piece" is the swamp mini-map from Freebooters Fate,
i used it cause the city from the coastal-map was to dominant.
Iankin, did you add the sails to the wrecks or are they part of the cast? They look really good.
Hi dobbs, this is a ready to paint resin/metal kit, nothing is added from me, it is only painted.
Only the 3 Emplacements are from metal.
if we had rules for sea monsters, there would be also the set "terrors of the deep" from black seas for this as well :wink:
Ensign Patch sometimes puts a sea monster in our Pirate games Lankin.
You could ask him.
Rob.
Vol Thanks for the info. I had a close look at the rigging and couldn't see your knots where you say you tie it in place, it's very neat.
Do you use some form of slip knot to create the tautness of the thread?
I'm impressed that the waxed thread works so well. I used some to create reinforcing lines on a couple of balloons for WoW and had the devils own job gluing it but I was using a weak pva which might explain it.
Sorry for all the questions but I recently repainted one of my ships and it went better than expected so I'm thinking of rigging it as well. I used to tie flies years ago and must still have the thread I used, I'll dig it out.
Thanks again for the info.
I prefer synthetic sewing thread as it’s not as sensitive to damp air. Cotton thread may become a little bit sagging when exposed to moisture.
:question: Now that is an idea Eric.
Rob.:wink: