David is correct, all of these 3D ships come with masts and sails. However, since I build my own masts, spars and sails, I requested only hulls from Henry.
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Masts and sails would save a lot of work even if I replace the masts with metal ones.
Rob.
Just heard that a 1/1000 printed option has been added to the Kickstarter.
I corresponded with Henry this afternoon (late night your time?) and he told me he added the 1/1000 scale to his kickstarter. He also said he tried to register on the Anchorage and had been waiting over 20 minutes for the confirmation email. Since he has not joined the discussion, I am assuming he was unsuccessful.
Jim, here is Henry's answer to your Great Lakes question: (screenshot)
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Continental navy will be a welcome addition and one I'll be going for as I have more of an interest in smaller ship actions than fleet actions with SOG. Just need to decide ona cost effective method of making SOG-compatible bases.
I would certainly be up for a Kickstarter of Continentals if it were 1000th scale.
Rob.
Take a hunk of balsa, glue paper fire/sail arc sheet to that, glue clear plastic or overhead-transparency sheet cover on top of that?
My main hesitation here is I'd like to see some coordination about "Ships Ares Won't Likely Do." Canada scratches our Bately 74's, don't recall if there's a Royal Oak/Alfred or a Ganges in the mix but I don't see Ares giving us another Common 74 sculpt (it's gonna be enough getting MIddlings and Larges, even with my proposed shortcut!) so those two additional Commons would be safe plays.
It occurs to me that for the ships Ares can't do themselves, Henry might be in an ideal position to fill the gap on those too. Things like gun-brigs and around 200-250-ton sloops and schooners, stuff below the 28m deck-length floor.
All bread and butter stuff that we need to get DB.
Rob.:thumbsup:
Hello guys!
Henry here (the creator of this Kickstarter), I'm sorry for being somewhat late to the discussion.
I'd like to pass my thanks to Bligh for getting me approved for posting, as well as to Nightmoss for sharing my work!
If I might give a bit of information about myself for those who're interested:
I started modelling ships with crude balsa models last spring, while I was living in Russia (lived and worked there full-time for six years, but I'm British by birth and have since returned). Then in September I took up 3D modelling and, once corona hit, wound up doing that full-time thanks to the low cost of living over there. I spent February-July in solo isolation in my flat out there, rather desperately trying to get home but I had to wait to find a buyer before I could leave. Finally made it back to the UK at the end of July and wound up having to take up whatever job(s) I could find. Currently my aim to get back to where I was, in terms of living solely as a modeller, but this time in my native country.
This is my third Kickstarter, my previous two were Gilded Sails (Anglo-Dutch Wars) and Baltic Bulwarks (Danes & Russians). I'm hoping it'll take me three months; with the core models done by March and the physical deliveries all out and delivered by June at the latest, with the intervening period being reserved for any stretch goals that might be unlocked. Fortunately all my preceding work has been delivered on-time, so I'd like to say I've a good track record.
Oh, by the way, anyone interested in my method can see this old tutorial I wrote on Ships of Scale to promote Gilded Sails.
Now I'll do my best to weigh in and address the points I can glean from the thread so far :)
I am very much still a landsman with regards to the Age of Sail, in that I haven't read nearly as much as most of the ardent hobbyists. Despite having had a passing interest in sailing ships, I only really got started properly 3D modelling ships just over a year ago (after a few months' experimenting with balsa). Volunteer and I first came to know one another because I got in touch with him, along others, asking for very basic advice!
My skill, insofar as it might be said that I have any, is in being able to faithfully reproduce original line drawings in a 3D form and alter the result so that it might prove printable. Beyond that I'm very much a layman - I think just reading the information blurbs on my products will betray that I'm not deeply read, but I take pride in the fact that I'm easily reachable and do respond to feedback. My models have very much been an evolving set of works and there's a world of difference between my first FDM models (like the Portland and Elizabeth) and what I'm producing now. To give myself some credit, though, I think my recent work is generally pretty accurate to what's being rendered.
I should very much like to give the Dutch a proper modelling; at the very least I intend to redo Washington & Prins Maurits, and the Corvette will be getting a remixed sculpt. But, ideally, I'd like to actually do a dedicated Kickstarter, probably based either around Camperdown. The Dutch are, along with the Danish, are one of the few nations other than Britain to have done a great job recording/digitising their ship plans, so I'm really spoiled for choice!
I felt obliged to give Vol a discount, considering the great patience with which he entertained my questions about balsa ships when I first got started with naval modelling ;D
I've added 1/1000 sculpts to the Kickstarter and will indeed create printable mast sets. They'll be based on standard Establishment regulations, but the thickness of the actual mast parts will probably be similar to Rod Langton's models.
But as mentioned elsewhere in the thread, I do currently have a free mast set up on Wargaming3D, as does Simon Mann :)
Thus far I've modelled the Cherokee-class brig, two Schooners, a Xebec, HMS Ontario and a Dutch corvette. These are all old(ish) models that could use a bit of work to bring them up to my current standards, but I've certainly got the foundations in place for covering some holes in your range there :)
Aaaand I guess I might cover some broader points while I'm at it:
1/1000 sculpts
While it's true that individual users could just scale the 1/1200 files up manually in a slicer, I've received enough queries about this scale to decide to properly support it. So, using the 1/1200 sculpts as a base, I'll produce specific 1/1000 sculpts for resin printing. I'll attempt to push the details further by including window frames, deck hatched and finer deck details. I'll also ensure the mast sets are updated; both with sails and bare yardarms.
Physical prints
I've added a limited run of 5 physical 1/1000 sets as a reward to the Kickstarter. The reason the run is so limited is because of time and space constraints on my end; it's just me in a small bedroom in London with a home printer!
Cooperation with Ares
My being rather ignorant as to the specifics of how anything like this might work, I'll just say the following: my sole aim with 3D modelling is to be able to make a full-time occupation of it. Currently I work 37 hours a week at minimum wage in a supermarket. This Kickstarter's budget was set so that, working across four months, I'd make a comparable amount of money to just sticking at my (dissatisfying) day job. To that end, I am of course open to any and all opportunities that would see me being paid to engage in something I love doing. So long as it pays more than a supermarket, I'd be interested :)
Anyhow, hope I've been helpful! I'll stick around and watch this thread attentively. Currently my game plan is to continue with my current commitments until around mid-December, when I'm going to ask to go part-time at work in the lead up to the Kickstarter's funding window closing. During that time I'll be promoting/polishing everything as near enough to full time as I can manage. Thank you very much for your interest and I look forward to joining the discussion. :thumbsup:
Should you find me a tad slow, though, you can give me a poke on the Community Group on Facebook (not advocating you migrate over there or anything, just saying it's the easiest place to reach me if I seem to be snoozing).
Finally, I will say that I'd be very grateful for any support anyone might give the Kickstarter. Please do give the page a read, including my update posts and the updated FAQs :)
Edit: Oh, I forgot! This is obviously somewhat non-committal but my general plan for the next Kickstarter projects is to do a small pack of 3-4 French 17th century ships and a pack modelling a large part of the Continental Navy, as I know was shared here :) I'll be sure to include Bonhomme Richard and Ranger.
Welcome aboard, Henry. David Manley and I are their Historical Consultants on Sails, so even if they were game for coordinating efforts with you it'd probably go through one or the other of us--and since I've piled up a ton of data doing research from them (starting with stripping Winfield's books down to the bare tech data) if there's ever anything I can do to contribute to your efforts please don't hesitate to toss up a post and ask. I posted a LOT of Greenwich collection draughts in a "Stretching Sculpts" series of threads, and frankly if you get to three-deckers I can easily see myself replacing the official Ares ships with yours. (If I can get past painting and assembly, that is--I have two large B-29s and three B-52s that've been sitting on my bench for fifteen years because of no-longer-steady hands.)
Hi Henry.
Good to hear from yo officially on the Anchorage at last.
I hope you will enjoy sharing our interest in all things naval and modelling in general.
I wish you every success with your new choice of career and remind you that should you need to advertise more formally here you can arrange terms with The Royal Hajj Keith who owns the site.
Sail safe and may you always have a fair wind.
Rob.
Greetings Henry and welcome aboard the Anchorage. I think you'll find it profitable to be here and I'm certainly glad that Vol has been in instrumental in facilitating this. I see from your post that you brought up Camperdown which will certainly make Rob very happy.
Ironically, I just watched a very good YouTube video on this particular battle, which I have to confess I was not sufficiently aware of until Rob mentioned Bligh's part in the exchange. Enjoy the Anchorage, stay safe and healthy!
Just an FYI, if you haven't sourced plans on Bonhomme Richard yet, Jean Boudriot's forensic reconstruction from her sisters seems to be the best available--it's what we used for the Ares model, but I know if you "backdated" her to as-originally-built (basically Jones had the quarterdeck extended about eight feet forward to wrap around the mizzenmast, IIRC) I'd be interested in four to upgrade my French EIM group. Can't make promises about timing, but it's definitely a "when" question rather than an "if."
Great to see you made it Henry! You will find a lot of good people, reference information and great discussions here.
Welcome aboard Henry, it's great to see you here :happy:
Welcome aboard. Following your work closely :beer:
Welcome to the Anchorage, Henry. A skilled modeller like yourself will be a great asset to the community and hopefully our experts here wil be able to help you.
Assuming that Henry's Kickstarter is successful and we have an expanded field of 1/1000 ships available who's going to produce the appropriate ship and maneuver decks that will be needed? If memory serves there may have been some effort done with "Clipper's" Santisima Trinidad, but that's just one ship from Henry's Kickstarter.
Is this something the stats committee will take on? Can we produce maneuver cards/decks without causing issues with Ares?
If the stats comittee can do the maths, I can knock out the ship mats and ship base cards.
It will be up to someone else to knock up the movement decks if we need to depart from the existing ones, because I have no experience of this.
As for Ares, they don't seem to mind as long as the decks etc are not ones which they already do or intend to in the near future as long as they are for our personal use and not put up for sale.
Maybe DB or Dave could check this out with Rob at Ares.
Rob.
I am a bit late to this discussion, but from what I have read I am very enthusiastic.
I will go back to the kickstarter and take another look.
Initially I only saw a scale of 1/700 and 1/1200, but the sculpts look very good and another source of ships cannot be sneered at.
I may get my HMS Mars now as per my avatar.
By the way welcome to Henry
I'm uncomfortable with trying to create new decks but would not oppose the rest of the Committee making efforts to do so... I'm more comfortable with ship logs and base inserts, though Ares has made a right dog's-breakfast of consistency for us to try and back-figure from, particularly on the Spanish ships.
Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone :salute:
I've got ahold of 'em aye! I'll look into how the model might have variants to it when I actually get to starting the project. But I have done different versions of the same ship in the part (e.g. the three sub-types I made for Magicienne or the Carnatic/Courageux model).
Glad to hear it's of interest :) Yes, 1/1000 will be covered! If you spot any areas on the Kickstarter where I've made that ambiguous, please do let me know and I'll amend things.
I think Ares has provided all the decks we need. I made a table of all of the decks some time ago and don't recall any gaps. The real adjustments would be in the sailing angles on the ship base cards.
Just a question for Henry, have you already made a file for the Courageux, if so will this be made available in our scale?
I would be looking to get a few copies of this ship for HMS Minotaur, Leviathan and Colosus
On the subject of 3D printing can anyone recommend a 'print on demand' 3D Print Service in North America? I see any number of folks on Etsy offering this as a service, but getting a recommendation here would be preferable. Thanks in advance.
Or the 1806 Téméraire class 74 Courageux? I have the one Henry did but I don't know which it is Attachment 51695
Henry's sculpt is the original 1750s Geoffroy design and her British progeny.
Well have bit the bullet, here is now hoping it makes the target
How hard did you bite Chris? I'm thinking about it too.
Rob.