Sorry Ken but I wouldn't and I've been an avid Napoleonic gamer since I was 12. That said if there wasn't a troop type available (not back in 72) I would remodel figures to near enough what they should be but paint them in the correct colours.
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Perhaps the nest wave will actually move forward. I've been thinking of how awesome it would be to play with WWII ships, like the USS Missouri, USS Enterprise, Bismarck, HMS Prince of Wales, etc.
Thanks for that information. It was pretty much what I figured, but I was hoping to get that news from someone who was actually there. :hatsoff:
As far as I've seen it is going to be next year. Roberto posted some information on BoardGame Geek weeks ago, but I was hoping more would be let out of the bag at Spiel. I'm just hoping it's early 2016 and not the end of next year? :drinks:
Per Andrea, the game system is designed to top out at 1815 technology at newest, and 1660 at oldest.
Medieval would take a modification, like going from WGF to WGS but in reverse, I'd guess, and moving forward through successive ironclads and monitors, preDreadnoughts, Dreadnoughts and "Modern Battleships" would similarly take several successive added games on the system.
Sorry, boys, but you'll never be able to do your Fantasyland "Final Countdown" HMS Victory vs USS Missouri duel. :p
Not much in the way of ship duels pre-16th century. They didn't have the artillery for it or gun ports. Ships were more of an extension of land for infantry.
I like this attitude, as it makes the game accessible to new players, but it is sadly very rare.
I had a 18th-19th force once, it was a bunch of British Irregulars from the colonies... (60th Royal American Light Infantry Brigade.) The rules for irregular soldiers where there in the system used... but when I showed up with a whole irregular company, for a company sized game, the event organizer accused me of cheese play and banned me. I sold my beautifully painted army afterwards and got into 40k as a result.
The problem he had, along with the 'regulars' was that artillery was less effective against irregular, and that they would've been forced to send cavalry at me because my rifles could out shoot their line muskets. In other words, they had to do more then line men up and roll dice. They'd have to actually try and out maneuver a force that was not going to play ball and line up for them to kill.
Really spoiled me on historicals for a long while. Now I am getting in this and Bolt Action... I'd love to bring my 60th boys back, but I still see the stigma in the community against running anything but big blocks of 'tradtional' formations.
These guys would have their minds blown if they ever did French Indian or American Revolutionary War ... or hell Peninsula Campaign in Spain.
I would like ships from the War of the Spanish succession - 7 years war period, which would be compatible with the game as present, however, I doubt there would be much interest so don't expect to see them any time soon!
What we need is Merchantmen, Spanish, and mid range ships for England and France!!!
I would like to see xebecs and chinese war junks. Russian and Turkish ships are high on my list too.
Ya know, there's a historical precedent for those turd-sucking whiners' attitudes: if memory serves, the Royal Army had a similar attitude towards folks like the Swamp Fox. "Daw-mit, why won't these bloody Colonial bah-stahds fight FAIR and line up and die like civilized opponents?"
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Well you all know my opinion on this gentlemen.
Play it as it comes.
War is not fair, nor are sides well balanced. I am well used to seeing my British line cut down by Cpt. Kiwi's Colonial Rifles and Minute men. Then Alex at Front Rank brought out his dismounted Dragoons and for a couple of exhilarating games, I had a force which could gall the flanks of the American Army, until Andy got his American Dragoons painted. then it was back to the status quo. It did not spoil my game, because just occasionally I got the upper hand.:happy:
Rob.
So would I (eve better with an amended system that suited small ship actions)
Alas I think we'll be waiting a VERY long time for stuff like this, if indeed it ever comes (there's a chance we might see a xebec if the promised merchants/pirates wave ever sees the light of day).
Russians, Turks, Dutch and Swedes - all very welcome but agani, I think we'll be into the next decade before we see much of these.
Of course it would be nice to be proved wrong :)
Nicely back on topic mates.
I do not know for sure if this is right, but I heard that most of the Turkish war ships where designed after French ships. if this is so, we have a Turkish fleet to hand with a little work.
So one down, three to go!
Be safe
Rory
You're right about the Turkish/French ships Rory, but never the less, it would be nice to see at least one of each rate by Ares.:beer:
It is a pity that we cannot buy some stickers with different flags printed on them so that we can change the nationality of ships.
The rest of the Royal Hajj's picture:beer:
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I think the stickers for flags may be a poor solution, the flags on the ships are fairly chunky already!!
I would carefully remove the flag from the model flagpole, and replace it with a paper flag printed off to scale and folded over with a reverse image of it to make a nice 2 sided flag!
You then use a little glue to stick a narrow edge to the flagpole and voila!
A bigger problem is making a new log to play on with the right name etc! :minis:
Did not Vol make flag sheets and put them in the down-load part of this site. Or where they lost in the BIG CRASH? I have not looked. If they are gone we could ask him to re-post them. As said above it will be the ships logs. Could this site do some house-rules for the Turks?
Be safe
Rory
When I tried to download Vol's flags, I got "ERROR: File not found".:beer:
The main problem I find with downloading flags that scale is the lack of definition when printing on an Inkjet. The smaller detail such as the white stripes on the British flag is subsumed by the pixel;s on either side.
Rob.
Hope this helps,
All are for 1-1200 scale
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Be safe
Rory
Also thanks for the flags doc Rory.
Rob.
War junks would definitely be nice to see, especially the larger ones like the Baochuan.
That is why I bought a colour laser printer and was very careful to choose one with high resolution in both vertical and horizontal. It's common for them to list them as 2400 dpi but they are only 600 dpi vertically. Mine is 1200x1200. It's what I have used to printed all my flags and on ordinary paper. My main problem is that when I bend the flag the colour may flake and I want to add colour to the edges. Therefore I usually add a little paint manually.
I am afraid that is a cost that I just can't justify for printing Sails of Glory Flags Jonas.
I did look at one once, but my output of Flags and decals is just not enough.
Rob.
I us a bog-standard printer for my ships.
Be safe
Rory
A lot of things destroyed Napoleon's army in Russia, I do not know that one can give Cossacks all the credit (the regular Russian "brigades" played a big part, too). But for a company level war-game, excluding Light or irregular infantry in favor of does seem a bit strange. Arguably, company-sized skirmish games are the most historically appropriate venue for such units; you would rarely see a line infantry company operating by itself . . . unless, probably, it was attacking or being attacked by irregulars.
Any actual further news on the timing of wave three, or the Fleet action rules.
My Squadrons, with recent additions, are rapidly approaching what might be called a Fleet.
If we can add a few ships from wave three I will be there.
Rob.
I wonder how many ships are 'enough' ! :minis:
I have been asked by one of the lads at our club to do a mini campaign -- and no doubt I will have to supply most of the ships!
I need a merchantman! - and some coastal fortifications, and have yet to find what I want. There is a show at the end of November in Stockton where I hope to get what I need.
Has anyone done a set of manoeuvre cards, or ships log for a generic merchantman?
Sheesck, I love this game! :thumbsup:
That 2015 rumor seems far fetched now. It's just two months left and no pictures, no release dates...