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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
    And that was the censored version.
    The Ottoman empire must have been a truly terrible thing to behold. Everything bigots say about muslims is based on what the Ottoman Shieks did. Turkey today is the most forward thinking advanced country in the middle east. Women got the right to vote in Turkey in 1930. Expect to see a woman president soon. Turkey fought on our side in WWII. They are currently pissed off at us because of the Iraq war started by a president of ours who shall remain nameless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentop View Post
    Turkey fought on our side in WWII.
    Turkey halted its sales to Germany in April, 1944 and broke off relations in August. In February, 1945, after the Allies made its invitation to the inaugural meeting of the United Nations (along with the invitations of several other nations) conditional on full belligerency, Turkey declared war on the Axis powers, but no Turkish troops ever saw combat.

    Hmm, not sure that really counts as "fighting on our side"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berthier View Post
    Turkey halted its sales to Germany in April, 1944 and broke off relations in August. In February, 1945, after the Allies made its invitation to the inaugural meeting of the United Nations (along with the invitations of several other nations) conditional on full belligerency, Turkey declared war on the Axis powers, but no Turkish troops ever saw combat.

    Hmm, not sure that really counts as "fighting on our side"
    That's really simplistic. Turkey remained neutral until 1945, which greatly benefited the Allies. They sent pilots to train with the RAF all during the war. Their president met secretly with both Churchill and Roosevelt but not Hitler. No german troops were ever allowed to enter Turkey, even when Iraq fell to a german engineered coup d'état. As far as talking religion, only Gunner is doing that. I'm arguing that religion really has nothing to do with 9/11 or the current mess we created in the middle east. Both Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were allies when Afghanistan was being invaded by the Russians. Their religion had nothing to do with which side they were on.

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