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    Default Going baseless?

    So has anyone explored color printing the ship's card on clear plastic? A bit of tacky glue dots could secure the ship to the card for the game and be popped off afterwards, it would make the ships look like they are truly afloat . . . just wondering . . . : )

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    Yes for my Langton fleet.

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    That sounds interesting, any pictures?

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    I'll dig some out and post them as soon as I can find them.

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    In this last one you can just make out the Kate card underneath so you can see how see through they are.
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    Could start a whole new trend here chaps.
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    I think some have forgone the SoG cards completely. See Julian's 'conversion' of HMS Spartiate below. He's painted the firing arcs on a base which I'm assuming could be lifted completely out of the SoG plastic base?

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    It appears the bases can be switched from SOG to display bases. I will make a celluloid base like I am thinking for discussion purposes . . . I do like the flat appearance, but I think we can go a bit further in the transparency area . . .

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    Only prob with those there are no coloured bands for judging wind gauge direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Union Jack View Post
    Only prob with those there are no coloured bands for judging wind gauge direction.
    If you're referring to Julian's bases that's true, but you could easily paint the edge of the bases to reflect the correct wind gauge?
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    Or create a ring template to hold over the ship, as I use in my Form Line of Battle rules.

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    Here is a quick example of what I am after, a thin card of clear plastic and a few minutes with some permanent color markers . . .



    Clear glue dots added to bottom of the ship's hull





    Davey Jones view from below



    Printing would be much nicer!



    In Situe



    Close up



    Add some dramatic lighting . . .



    Now you can get a feel for what I am after, use of overhead transparency film and a good color copier and I think it would work quite well!

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    That's real nice. That's what I originally hoped they would do for this game - make clear bases like they have in Wings of Glory.

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    I have been contemplating moving over to just a clear base myself, I will start experimenting. I like what I see so far though.

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    I just tried out a transparent base card for the US ships which you can print onto transparent OHP acetates.
    Names and stats can be added to suit. Should be simple to create for any ship using a scanned image of the original card and just adding the name of any new ships to order.



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    Great job! I am stuck home without access to the film and the good digital printer so this looks just the ticket!

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    Here you go Dave. just for you.




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    Hi All,
    This I think helps the over-all look of the ships. It comes away from the token/toy look of the ships. From the beginning this has been one of the problems with the whole system. The one little thing Ares would not do. Put the peg on the base and not on the ship. Why?
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    Why not use heavy duty card sleeves? Put the base card in a clear sleeve with another card to add to the stiffness? Of course that wouldn't work if you want the ocean/mat to show through the base card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmoss View Post
    Why not use heavy duty card sleeves? Put the base card in a clear sleeve with another card to add to the stiffness? Of course that wouldn't work if you want the ocean/mat to show through the base card?

    https://www.maydaygames.com/products...y-card-sleeves
    Hi Jim,
    You still have that Bl~#*y peg under the ship! That is the problem. Ed did show some years back the thick clear bases that may work with the above ideas
    Be safe
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    It is easy to mount the Acetate onto a clear 3mm acrylic base and then the ship on top as a compromise between the two systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    Here you go Dave. just for you.

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    Thanks and Cheers! I will have a G & T in your honor in real life! Here's to the bottomless Bombay Gin Clipper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devsdoc View Post
    Hi Jim,
    You still have that Bl~#*y peg under the ship! That is the problem. Ed did show some years back the thick clear bases that may work with the above ideas
    Be safe
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    This is true, but on several ships now I've removed the peg completely and rely on rare earth magnets that I've installed in the ship hull to hold it on the plastic bases. So many of my ships (and all of my Langton builds) have flat bottoms.

    As it turns out I took one of the Mayday sleeves to see how it worked with the base cards and they are actually too big for them. I know what I'd use as a substitute, but as I'm not really into modeling these days it's not a priority. Besides it looks like Dave and Rob have worked out their own version regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipper1701 View Post

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    Wow tell me more about this Baltimore Clipper conversion! My one regret is that there are no schooners in SoG currently. I love your conversion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfimp View Post
    Wow tell me more about this Baltimore Clipper conversion! My one regret is that there are no schooners in SoG currently. I love your conversion!
    See it all here: http://sailsofglory.org/showthread.p...1458#post61458

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipper1701 View Post
    That's very cool! Thanks for sharing your project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devsdoc View Post
    Hi Jim,
    You still have that Bl~#*y peg under the ship! That is the problem. Ed did show some years back the thick clear bases that may work with the above ideas
    Be safe
    Rory
    I know I'm practising thread necromancy here, but....

    Make the base out of 2mm acetate, drill a 3mm hole dead centre, stick a 3mm x 2mm round neodymium magnet in it. fit a matching one or even just a thin piece of strip steel or steel paper to the bottom of the ship in place of the peg?
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    I am into resurrections! Did any one pursue the clear card base beyond these beginnings? I have not done a thing since my mini clipper phase and micro America's Cup race . . . need some time on the water! I also got lost in the history of the windjammers on the Pacific coast, way cool ships and history . . .

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    Hi Dave.
    I have been sitting on this message of yours.


    Greetings kind sir, could you send me your clipper cards you did for my series? The others are apparently not making up their minds and I would like to give yours a try. Thanks! Dave
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    Can you remind me which ships they were and what the stats were and I will try and get them to you.

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    This method certainly could be used with any Shapeways models.

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    Here's the names, they are all identical. You made me a trial card in post #16 above, still good stats? I am not sure of how the discussion on my "Clipper's Clippers" thread came out . . . Thanks!

    Desert Clipper, Burgundy Clipper, Bomb Bay Clipper, Patriot Clipper

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