Maybe make Prince a 5x12--she's old and weak like her London sisters, but with that IIRC ~20' plug spliced in across four gundecks including QD there's a lot more of her to have to shoot away even though no guns or crew were added. WARNING: Long table ahead with our old guidelines!

Frankly, I'd say some of the smallest Firsts and biggest Seconds should probably be 6x11, which would allow 6x10 and 5x11 for the "conventional" Seconds along with superheavy two-deckers.
Here's a table I worked up for the Committee a while back, but needs some updating...

"With our recent tests finding that Burden has more effect on durability than hull boxes, and noting that the rankings do seem to generally align with tonnages, I thought a second look trying to back-engineer things might be in order--this seems to explain why Concordes got better Burden than Amazons. Mahonesas obviously don't fit, their stats appear to be pure made-up Munchkinry. Do note that I'm using the 20'-shorter Salvador del Mundo as the Meregildos sample; she's the draught we designed the mini from (the others should be 6mm longer) and the best documented." (The red text indicates the absolute "floor" for smallest ship Ares can make and anything below it--our proposal for USS Enterprise took some creativity to get "above redline." Need to edit to add Prince and Ocean, obviously.
Sculpt Ship Dims Ton BM Hull Deck
Santissima Trinidad ~3000? 6x12 worst possible
HMS Caledonia; Nelson-class ~2616 6x12 F or H?
106 Commerce de Marseilles 63.41x16.47 2746 6x12 F
108 HMS Hibernia 61.32x16.16 2530 6x12 H
111 Purisima Concepcion/
San Jose		 2456 6x12 F
111 Salvador del Mundo 57.91x16.47 2397 6x12 F
114 Tonnant 59.12x15.27 2281 6x11 H
US Independence superheavy 74 57.91x16.5 2243 US
201/108 HMS Victory 56.08x15.56 2162 6x12 I
Dreadnought 98 56.39x15.6 2120 6x11 or 6x12?
Caesar/Foudroyant 80's 1975-2025 5x11?
1750s French 80 80's 1975-2000 5x10 or 5x11?
102 Cassard-variant Large Temeraire 56.19x14.64 ~2000? 5x10 or 5x11? B
102 British-built Temeraire clones 55.87x14.33 1925 5x10 or 5x11? B
102 1782 Temeraire Middling 74 55.87x14.33 1925 5x10 B
British late Large 74 1850-1925
1766 London 90 53.95x14.95 1870
1757 Triumph Large 74 52.14x14.95 1825 5x10 or 5x11?
1759 Sandwich 90 53.65x14.94 1821 5x11 or 6x10?
British late Middling 74 1750-1850
112 Bahama 53.34x14.64 1786 5x10 B
112 Nepomuceno 55.17x14.34 1740 5x10 B
British early Middling or late Common 74 1700-1750
104 HMS Bellona 51.21x14.06 1603 5x10 D
British early Common 74's 1550-1700
202 USS Constitution 53.04x13.16 1533 5x10 L
UK 24pdr pitch-pine superfrigates 1525-1575 prop 4x10
202 USS President (much weaker than sisters) 53.04x13.16 1533 prop 4x11 L
109 Artesien 50.02x13.15 1480 4x10 N
115 Ardent 64 48.77x13.42 1376 5x10 J
115 1740s Lis 64 (template for Ardent) 1373-1402 5x9 or 4x10 J
US 18-24pdr 38 (Constellation) 49.99x12.5 1278 4x10 or 5x9? E?
105 FR Pallas 38 46.93x11.91 1083 4x9 E
105 Hebe 38 46.12x12.67 1071 4x9 E
105 UK Leda (Hebe clone) 38 45.73x11.88 1062 4x10? E
115 Portland 50 44.50x12.34 1044 4x10 O
116 USS Bonhomme Richard 46.33x12.19 998 4x10 O
113 Mahonesa (heavier group) 974 4x10 K
US Confederacy 12/18pdr 32-38 970 4x10? K?
113 Mahonesa (lighter group) 966 4x9 K
UK 1799 Apollo 18pdr 36 943
UK 1795 Phoebe (len. Perseverance) 18pdr 36 913
UK 1798 Amphion 18pdr 32 909
101 Concorde 12pdr 32 44.17x11.08 888 3x9 A
UK 1781 Perseverance 18pdr 36 871 3x9 or 3x10?
US Essex 12pdr 32-36 867 3x10? C?
UK Pallas 18pdr 32 776 3x9?
1756 UK Venus 12pdr 36 39.11x10.87 718
US Raleigh 12pdr 32 696 2x9 or 2x10? C?
US Virginia 12pdr 28 681 2x9 or 2x10? C?
103 UK 1773 Amazon 12pdr 32 38.4x10.67 677 2x9 C
US Providence 12pdr 28-32 632 2x9? C?
103? UK Enterprise 9pdr 28 36.57x10.11 593 2x8 or 2x9?
US Peacock 22 sloop-of-war 36.28x9.75 539
UK Banterer 9pdr 24 (Cyane) 35.97x9.77 537
UK Cyrus 9pdr 22 (Levant) 35.06x8.84 454
UK Cruizer 9pdr 18 brig-sloop 30.48x9.3 382
1795 Merlin 6pdr 16 32.3x8.54 365
107 1766 Swan 6pdr 14-18 29.29x7.96 300 1x8
Ares' hard-minimum ship length 28m
1807 Cherokee 10 gun-brig 27.43x7.35 235
1800 Archer 12 gun-brig 24.38x6.78 177



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