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Thread: Proposed Alternate Carronade Rule

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    On the other hand, let's take a 7-firepower First Rate, done under their rules and DS'ed, trying to replicate Victory's first shot. Again, we'll Double Grape. 7/2 rounded = 4, so that's 8 chits for three boxes knocked off first round, at ten to kill a typical Third Rate about 1.7/shot thereafter, so... four or five turns to completely decrew Bucentaure.

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    This last seems more like what I would expect DB.
    The first model is way over powered.
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    They're both faithful replications of their historical loads, though--actually, the First Rate less so because the QD/FC carronades were only a fraction of the total throw. I would venture that on an SOL or two-decker cruiser their real use was more decrewing and pont-defense against small-ship threats like a modern Close-In Weapons System than as part of the broadside.

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    The more that I trial them, the more I am coming to the same conclusion DB.
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    Ok guys, here is my AAR of two frigates using primarily grapeshot vs a 3rd rate.

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    That one musta been a fat payday in Prize Money... :)

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    A very interesting trial Hugh.
    Seems to prove your point.
    I must see if I can get a similar result.
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    It is anecdotal evidence, but I think it shows that grape does hold value.

    I'd love to see your experiences.

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    As soon as we get back from Scotland I will conduct some sea trials.
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    Any updates on trials? :)

    I also have an idea for a house-rule on Victory's 68-lb. carronades at Trafalgar: In Fore arc ONLY, may throw one additional B, C or D chit at B range per fire/reload action. Unique to 1805 Victory. (Though I'm inclined to give that ability to 1782 Egmont too... give some "difference".)

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    That would indeed be an interesting amendment to the rules DB.
    I will also give that a whizz next time I use Victory in a game.

    I'm afraid the trials are a bit delayed, as Mrs Bligh needed the games table for some quilt making project. That is a trade off for my having the largest table in the house under play mats for most of the year.
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    Headsup, some other ideas barfed up oer in the Wardroom too. :)

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    Had a look but could not see anything obvious in the WR DB even after doing an advanced search.
    Could you perchance give us a lead on in which thread it is to be found?
    Thanks,
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    Rob, that was Stats Committee--some quick-and-dirty work on Upbore 32's and Large 74's. :) Starting to think maybe we need to rethink the committee, as dead as it seems... :(

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    Thanks for that DB.
    Looks as if you are the Stats Committee to me.
    Who were the other members?

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    You, David M, Jonas and I think maybe Eric other than myself--and while data-mining is something I do very well, me converting it to game stats is iffy.

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    I read the posts but haven't really put in any time to think it over.

    I'm not either really sure what kind of answer is expected to the latest posts. It's more like statements than questions.

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    Sorry, Jonas--intent was more spit-balling ideas, throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what sticks if anything. :)

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    Just as an aside gentlemen, Sealegs now going under the name of Captain Whistle Blower and i tried conclusions with three 74s a side today. We used the strict Carronade rules for the British and the Spanish used normal weapons.
    When I get time to transmit the photos to Cpt Whistle Blower I will advise you about his AAR.
    Rob.

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