Requesting playtest, two special ships

[Diamondback]

True, which could perhaps be compensated for by weakening the broadside. For example, undamaged Double Shot Egmont would throw six each A and B chits within B range, while undamaged Restatted Egmont on the test stats I've WAG'ed up only throws 7 B's.

Actually, I was just looking at the nuts and bolts of Warhammer Trafalgar last night... which suggests that carronades should actually be limited to about C/D range, that game having a 1-2-3 range proportion between carronades, 18#-or-less guns and 24#-or-more guns. So perhaps the way to represent it is drawing an extra chit at B Range?

[David Manley]

True, which could perhaps be compensated for by weakening the broadside. For example, undamaged Double Shot Egmont would throw six each A and B chits within B range, while undamaged Restatted Egmont on the test stats I've WAG'ed up only throws 7 B's.

Actually, I was just looking at the nuts and bolts of Warhammer Trafalgar last night... which suggests that carronades should actually be limited to about C/D range, that game having a 1-2-3 range proportion between carronades, 18#-or-less guns and 24#-or-more guns. So perhaps the way to represent it is drawing an extra chit at B Range?

A couple of observations here:

1) I wouldn't nerf a ship just because of an artificiality such as an apparently "hard" table edge. Unless its hard for a reason (e.g. a coastline) I'd "scroll" the table wneh an edge is approached (a well used naval wargaming manoeuvre).

2) Never, never, NEVER use Warhammer Trafalgar as a reference!!!

[fredmiracle]

I wouldn't nerf a ship just because of an artificiality such as an apparently "hard" table edge. Unless its hard for a reason (e.g. a coastline) I'd "scroll" the table wneh an edge is approached (a well used naval wargaming manoeuver

As a point of principle I get that (and certainly the map edge handling feels arbitrary, and I do generally play using the "scroll" myself). But if a proposed optional rule is intended to be a modular bolt-on, it seems worth considering the body of rules as they exist and which most players may be expected to utilize. At a minimum one might need to cite this (no mapedge pins) as a necessary additional rule change to make such ships work.

I guess a related question is that if scrolling IS allowed, would a carronade-only ship make for good games. But it does seem worth testing.